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Jun 04, 2014 00:40 |  #61

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I was looking where the upgrade to 6 was as I never clicked buy since it appeared to be the full version at $700.

Well, if you currently have CS6, you can easily get the latest available upgrade just from the Help menu, there is no cost for those on-going upgrades!

'Course for those with, say, CS4/CS5, maybe even CS3, the cost for upgrading to CS6 is what, about $350? I dunno, upgrading to the latest upgrade of CS6 is just Help/Upgrades! I believe it upgrades ACR as well...It's been a while!


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Jun 04, 2014 06:49 |  #62

battletone wrote in post #16950228 (external link)
I was looking where the upgrade to 6 was as I never clicked buy since it appeared to be the full version at $700.

Yep, you have to click "Buy" to bring up the upgrade "to" CS6 option.

tonylong wrote in post #16950241 (external link)
'Course for those with, say, CS4/CS5, maybe even CS3, the cost for upgrading to CS6 is what, about $350?

The upgrade pricing from CS5 to CS6 is $199. There is no upgrade pricing from CS4 or earlier. You used to be able to upgrade from 3 versions back, but Adobe changed that with CS6. IIRC they allowed the upgrade pricing from CS3 for a really short time because of people complaining though.


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Jun 04, 2014 07:26 |  #63

tonylong wrote in post #16950241 (external link)
Well, if you currently have CS6, you can easily get the latest available upgrade just from the Help menu, there is no cost for those on-going upgrades!

'Course for those with, say, CS4/CS5, maybe even CS3, the cost for upgrading to CS6 is what, about $350? I dunno, upgrading to the latest upgrade of CS6 is just Help/Upgrades! I believe it upgrades ACR as well...It's been a while!

If I have CS6? Do you post just to post?

D Thompson wrote in post #16950612 (external link)
Yep, you have to click "Buy" to bring up the upgrade "to" CS6 option.

Yes thank you.


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Jun 04, 2014 08:03 |  #64

battletone wrote in post #16950662 (external link)
If I have CS6? Do you post just to post?


No, he doesn't. Tony is one of those members who post a great deal to these forums, in order to help people out. Something he does very well and many, many members have benefitted from his help over the years.

He responded to your post:

battletone wrote in post #16950228 (external link)
I was looking where the upgrade to 6 was as I never clicked buy since it appeared to be the full version at $700.

Which is extremely ambiguous. Many people would use that expression to mean that they have CS6 and want the next upgrade to it (i.e. to upgrade CS6). What you wrote could easily be interpreted as you have CS6 and want to upgrade it, or it could be that you have an earlier version which you want to upgrade to reach CS6.

As you weren't clear which applied in your case, Tony attempted to answer both possibilities. He was clearly trying to help you and doesn't deserve your rude and snotty attitude in return.




  
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Jun 04, 2014 09:05 |  #65

tonylong wrote in post #16950213 (external link)
Yeah, hey, I myself am pretty happy that I have CS5 (it even has the early version of Content Aware), especially since it got to me out of the generosity of a POTN member who had an unused copy!!

'Course, what will inevitably happen is the PS CC will come out with some great new things, and people will drool, and people will gripe, but eventually a lot of folks will want those cool new things enough to bite the bullet and subscribe!

Interesting that you mention this...

I used to watch various Ps webinars and training courses on a weekly/monthly basis... until they went to CC. Instructors have to teach the current capabilities and product(s). Knowing that I don't subscribe, I've stopped watching them, thus probably won't know of those capabilities for quite some time...


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Jun 04, 2014 09:11 |  #66

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.... Which is extremely ambiguous. Many people would use that expression to mean that they have CS6 and want the next upgrade to it (i.e. to upgrade CS6). What you wrote could easily be interpreted as you have CS6 and want to upgrade it, or it could be that you have an earlier version which you want to upgrade to reach CS6.

As you weren't clear which applied in your case, Tony attempted to answer both possibilities. He was clearly trying to help you and doesn't deserve your rude and snotty attitude in return.

Upgrades and updates ... one is free and the other isn't. In a previous post battletone said that he had CS5. Using the correct word would help. Reading the previous posts would help even more.


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Jun 04, 2014 18:14 |  #67

sandpiper wrote in post #16950713 (external link)
No, he doesn't. Tony is one of those members who post a great deal to these forums, in order to help people out. Something he does very well and many, many members have benefitted from his help over the years.

He responded to your post:

Which is extremely ambiguous. Many people would use that expression to mean that they have CS6 and want the next upgrade to it (i.e. to upgrade CS6). What you wrote could easily be interpreted as you have CS6 and want to upgrade it, or it could be that you have an earlier version which you want to upgrade to reach CS6.

As you weren't clear which applied in your case, Tony attempted to answer both possibilities. He was clearly trying to help you and doesn't deserve your rude and snotty attitude in return.

Nothing ambiguous about the word upgrade. I don't think I ever used the term update. Those two are not interchangeable. However I do get the impression many times people jump to the conclusion of posting here without reading what has already been said. ....like where I already mention I have CS5. Then mention I cannot find the link for the upgrade, and then have multiple responses from people that sound almost like they didn't read anything and even so far as assuming I want CC from having cs6....so sorry I am jumping to conclusions, but while I might not post everything as clear as it could be, I have seen more than a few posts that have zero relevance to the questions posed.


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Jun 05, 2014 07:48 |  #68
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D Thompson wrote in post #16946121 (external link)
IIRC, pirated versions of CC were available within 24 hours of release.

Sure, but at $10/month, there is less reason to pirate. Many people had a problem dropping $700 to purchase PS, but are ok at $10/month.




  
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Jun 05, 2014 16:20 |  #69

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Sure, but at $10/month, there is less reason to pirate. Many people had a problem dropping $700 to purchase PS, but are ok at $10/month.

Similarly, my wife would rather me make 2 payments on our vehicle a month so "less money comes out of our account at a time"... but $400/mo is still $400/mo no matter how you slice it.

Unfortunately, I'd MUCH rather pay a one time $700 fee than pay $10/mo (or whatever the rate goes up to) for a lifetime. It's been well documented that those who used to upgrade every few years spent less money.


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Jun 05, 2014 16:32 |  #70

I was a "$199.99 a year" every two years or so since Photoshop 4. (4,5,7,7.1*, 8 aka CS, CS4)
*if I recall correctly, 7.1 was the intro to Adobe camera raw, and I don't recall if we paid for that?

I packed it in when they wanted to charge me full $700.00 for CS6 because I had skipped version CS5.

After some time on the phone, my relationship with Adobe came to an abrupt end.


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Jun 05, 2014 18:13 |  #71

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #16954176 (external link)
I packed it in when they wanted to charge me full $700.00 for CS6 because I had skipped version CS5.

They pissed a bunch of people off when they changed their upgrade policy from 3 versions back to only 1. Seems like they gave CS3/4 users a couple of months to make the jump with the upgrade pricing before they killed it off. I used the beta and couldn't wait to upgrade from CS5 to CS6, mainly because the PV2012 in ACR sold me on the upgrade.

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After some time on the phone, my relationship with Adobe came to an abrupt end.

At the moment Adobe has gotten the last of my money. I don't like the subscription plan and I have no use for Lightroom. I'm not saying never, but as long as CS6 does what I need then I'm good. I would've paid for the upgrade to CC if it was a perpetual license.


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Jun 05, 2014 19:52 |  #72

Got an Email today CC full for $29.99. Decisions decisions.


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Jun 05, 2014 22:35 |  #73

I'll stick with CS6 until it's no longer an option which should be several years. I do 95% of my work in LR and if that goes to a CC model, I'll just do my RAW conversion in DPP or learn a new raw editor and export to tiff for any PS work I might need to do. I'm an amateur and simply won't be forced into a subscription model anytime soon....


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Jun 06, 2014 06:51 |  #74
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drvnbysound wrote in post #16954153 (external link)
Similarly, my wife would rather me make 2 payments on our vehicle a month so "less money comes out of our account at a time"... but $400/mo is still $400/mo no matter how you slice it.

Unfortunately, I'd MUCH rather pay a one time $700 fee than pay $10/mo (or whatever the rate goes up to) for a lifetime. It's been well documented that those who used to upgrade every few years spent less money.

So let's play the numbers. $700 will take 6 years of subscriptions th be even in cost. In that 6 years, say you upgraded twice at $200 per upgrade. That's basically another 4 years of subscription costs. So the break even point is 10 years.

Personally for someone starting off with PS today from a cost basis, the CC is a much better deal given the 10 year break even price. You also would have the latest greatest features with the subscription whereas you'd be using older versions of PS for much of the time with your model.




  
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Jun 06, 2014 08:22 |  #75

That of course assumes they're staying with $10 a month, and people would feel compelled to upgrade relatively regularly.

However more than a few consumer polls that I've come across are suggesting that the sweet spot for something like PS+LR bundle is about the $10 point, so we'll have to wait a year or two to see what the practical data is. It is not outside the realm of possibility that they drop the price of the product over time to encourage an even larger pool of people to sign up.


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