Considering going FF

And the 5D Mk II (used) and the 6D are within my budget.

I have a 60D now and will either throw out the baby with the bathwater or keep it as a backup. The challenge with keeping it is that except for my 70-200 2,.8 IS, I have to buy new glass for the FF anyway. I could get some major bucks to replace my EF-S glass with EF glass with the sales of the nice EF-S glass I have.

The challenge with selling it is that I have a T2i also, basically worthless on the resale market. I'm also REALLY going to miss my 17-55 2.8. I swear that lens would be an L lens if it weren't EF-S!

I'm a hobbyist and use my camera for shots of my little girl's dance and vocal competitions and at WDW.

WWYD? Suggestions?

The big question:
What are you hoping to gain from getting the new camera?

If you want better low light performance or a better AF system, the 6D maybe the way to go. If the AF and high ISO performance is good enough for you on a 60D, perhaps upgrading isn't required.

It's easy to start upgrading & lose sight of what your requirements are.

I do a lot of low light. Well, not really, except for dark rides at WDW which I really don't shoot that much. Lots of inside and poorly lit dance competitions. That's my primary.

To tell the truth. I'm just considering my options. I'm HEAVILY vested in crop glass and have some really nice lenses. I'm probably hoping you guys will talk me down off the wall.

I'm not you guys. I'm not a pro, but I'm what I would call an enthusiast, and I'm a gadget freak and I love cameras anyway.

Maybe the 70D is the answer. Maybe I should just be happy with my 60D. It's not like I'm unhappy with it at all.

Thank you!

Get the 6d. If high I so is your thing, the 6d is about a stop better than the 5d2, and has the ability to acquire focus at those lower light levels.

Nothing wrong with a hobbyist going full frame. You'll fall in love with your 70-200 all over again. Completely different beast on FF.

Charlie wrote in post #16958926
Get the 6d. If high I so is your thing, the 6d is about a stop better than the 5d2, and has the ability to acquire focus at those lower light levels.

Nothing wrong with a hobbyist going full frame. You'll fall in love with your 70-200 all over again. Completely different beast on FF.

Oh thanks, Charlie. That was helpful! (j/k)

Seriously, I've read a ton of great things about the 6D here and other places. I just know the Mk II was (and still is) a great camera, especially for what they can be bought with now with < 50k shutter actuations.

I just appreciate the comments. I'm in untreaded water here for me, and I need some help.

I had a 5D2 & really liked it. The big advantage that it has now is that it is around $300 cheaper on the used market.

The 6D is a better high ISO performer, better AF system and is smaller. The only strike against it is the $300 extra you'll be spending. The 5D2 isn't ginormous, but I would have preferred (usually) it to be a little smaller.

Also, if you want to stay APS-C, perhaps this mythological 7D mark ii would be right up your alley. I would wait to see if it pans out & how it is reviewed.

WilsonFlyer wrote in post #16958929
Oh thanks, Charlie. That was helpful! (j/k)

Seriously, I've read a ton of great things about the 6D here and other places. I just know the Mk II was (and still is) a great camera, especially for what they can be bought with now with < 50k shutter actuations.

I just appreciate the comments. I'm in untreaded water here for me, and I need some help.

I loved my 5D2, but when it comes to high ISO, the 6D slaughters it (or any crop camera).

this is probably better than your 60D @1600


ISO 10,000

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I think theres fewer and fewer reasons to pick the 5D2 over the 6D as the prices reach about equal.

The 6D is on a refurb deal right now too. I got mine refurb (back in november when it hit 1213.andchange) it had like 24 shutter clicks. Looked and smelled as new!

canonpricewatch.com

Consider improving your PP skills. I took the following in a concert where the lighting (floodlights with gels) was particularly difficult.

5DIII full photo ISO12800

60D full photo ISO 5000

MakisM1 wrote in post #16958996
Consider improving your PP skills.

Nice work.

Can you elaborate a bit on your PP of high ISO shots?

chubbyone wrote in post #16959009
Nice work.

Can you elaborate a bit on your PP of high ISO shots?

Thank you.

I can write all day long, but, if you look at my signature, I am using Linux and the RAW converter/editor is Darktable which is available only in Linux and MacOS.

Windows users can use the pixel editor GIMP which has most of the features I am using in my workflow.

For high ISOs (over 3200), I use a Linear rather than colorimetric input profile (both Darktable and GIMP have this).

Then I use Wavelet Denoise (Darktable has an action calibrated to the camera/selected ISO, GIMP has 2 passes, one in the input (Ufraw) plugin and a more parametrized one in the main module).

If you are interested, let me know and I can help you through.

I forgot to mention that both Darktable and GIMP are Open Source Software and they are free.

EDIT: Sorry, I got some PMs mixed, so I put this post up, took it down and now I am posting it again. Anyone interested in Darktable and GIMP can PM me.

In almost the exact same boat, only difference a 50D - I bought the 6D and love it - the high ISO IQ is such a win shooting the dance competitions and recital.

You are comparing the 50D a 2008 technology camera with the 6D of 2013?

The 50D was before Canon got into the high ISO kick, I understand it is worse than the 60D in high ISO.