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POLL: "Old DSLR or Mirrorless"
Wife is always right. Keep the old Canon 500D.
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Beauty and brain do not co-exist. Get a mirrorless, more practical.
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Jun 12, 2014 13:56 |  #16

zurura wrote in post #16966775 (external link)
But my wife insists me to keep the old camera so that she can use it.

there's your answer really.
Unless she changes her mind, you probably don't want to think about the repercussions of the other option.:)


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Jun 12, 2014 14:10 |  #17

if she wants to keep the old one then you don't have to sell it, ship it, and buy a new one. Win - win. She has what she wants and knows and you have no work :-)


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Jun 12, 2014 14:14 |  #18

Give your wife 60D, she needs it for work, sell 500D and get your mirrorless joy.
I can't imagine how she would frame her work precisely without OVF.


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Jun 12, 2014 15:12 as a reply to  @ post 16967697 |  #19

If you want to buy a Canon mirrorless you would be nuts not to wait until they make one using the 70d dial pixel technology. That might be pretty cool.




  
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Jun 12, 2014 15:22 |  #20

samsen wrote in post #16967620 (external link)
Totally disagrees with everything said.

Sorry but: Only a reckless person who has never had EOS-M in his lift, might say things like this. One who is only feed by media and no personal experience.:mad:

My EOS-M with 22mm lens is one of the best cameras I have ever had. I use it on daily basis no mater what other body I carry. I use it often for video coverage as well. I use it with all kind of my old lenses including FD lenses for best possible result I have ever gotten (And I own the $2000 Original FD to EOS adapter and still prefer what EOS-M gives me)....

The only joke about the EOS-M is the current price and any smart person should utilize that benefit to his or her best!

Anyone in doubt can look at many EOS-M threads.

This. Even with my Fuji system I still find my M very useful and the IQ is fantastic.

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Though it may be the best camera you have ever used, the simple fact is that compared to Canon's competition, the EOS-M falls far short. That's not saying that it is a bad camera, just that compared to others, it's at the bottom of the list.

As to Canon's support, really? Canon has shown no interest in developing a mirrorless presence at least here in the USA. It's replacement was never marketed here, the EOS-M has been removed from it's USA website, and only 2 lenses are still shown. If that doesn't scream no interest, what does? Maybe sometime in the future they might try again, but the EOS-M is a clear example of a failed experiment.

False. There was nothing "experimental" about it, they brought it out and expected it to sell well but priced it way too high, after initial reviews tore it apart for its relatively slow AF (which has since been fixed btw) it sold poorly, after they dropped the price they sold very fast. My bet is on a re-launch of the system in the near future here in the states.

The only problem I have with the M is lens support, but that's not much of an issue because of...

samsen wrote in post #16967697 (external link)
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Thanks.
I have only used (And still have working copies of) several versions 1Ds, 5Ds, Double digit Ds and many types of rebels, so yes may be I have not enough cameras to judge well...:rolleyes:

What people didn't get is that EOS-M is compatible with virtually every current, EF or EFs and previous Canon lens FD or FL or Screw 42mm, AF or Manual and even AF lenses with the right adapter (Electric as opposed to cheaper mechanical only) are fully electronically functional. So it is wrong to say EOS-M has no lens. It is much more compatible with all Canon and then virtually all other major manufacture's lenses, via right non-optical, infinity correct, adapter, whether electronic or manual.
Yes. Canon entered this marked last. They had slower AFing on initial firmware. Nothing more.
Canon EOS-M is a gem and at current sale and prices, I recommend all friends to get a copy If you are in market for anything in close range. Buy & use one. You will understand.

This! Unlike any of its competitors the M can AF just as fast with adapted Canon lenses as it can with native lenses, even with the $60 Fotodiox adapters. To even get aperture control via Canon lenses with any other system costs upward of $299, which is more than the cost of the M!

To me it's a no brainer, the M can't be beat for its price right now, period.


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Jun 12, 2014 15:55 |  #21
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My wife insists on keeping her current car but I know that a Porsche would be much better for her....


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Jun 12, 2014 16:22 |  #22

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My wife insists on keeping her current car but I know that a Porsche would be much better for her....

Women... I sold my car to buy her a brand-new 420 HP Mustang GT with manual transmission, but she prefers her two-year old BMW.

Who can understand them?

Now I'm stuck with the beast!... :D


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Jun 12, 2014 16:24 |  #23
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^^^Its a hard life....I know. :D


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Jun 12, 2014 16:42 |  #24

I didn't even read option two. Wife is always right. Full Stop.


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Jun 12, 2014 19:06 |  #25

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I didn't even read option two. Wife is always right. Full Stop.

That's my motto too. I know only two answers for the wife: It is either Yes, or Yes, Honey. Works miracles! :-)




  
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Jun 12, 2014 19:28 |  #26

I'm guessing that if your wife did end up using your old 500d then the situation could arise where you're hunting to find your favourite lens only to discover that the missus has taken it to work with her, not a very good situation
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you really. And with all the positive press about olympus at the mompent you are trying to to justify buying it. So I suggĺlest you do sell the 500d and buy it FOR YOURSELF and give your wife the 60d. That way you get the best of both worlds if the wife will let you use her 60d and extra lenses you had for it. But in reality it's a no brained, give her the 500d and use the cash you'll save on a new lens you both can use. Win, win, win.


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Jun 12, 2014 19:33 |  #27

I voted for the first option and I'm not even married.

Why worry about if you think the camera is too big for the wife. If she starts to complain about the weight then get her a new camera. Think of the fact that you don't have to spend any money on option one.

as for mirrorless if you felt the need to spend the money I would go with Fuji.


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Jun 12, 2014 20:11 |  #28

i recently thought i would like to try a mirror less,one because they are new and two because i travel lots for work and thought i wanted smaller and more portable,i found a used samsung with a lens for a good deal,after being pretty excited about its features and the reviews were great,i tried to like it but the lens was crap,i got a adapter to use my canon lenses on it without electronic communication though and that helped a bit to try and like it,its way to small,it doesn't feel like a camera,i guess I'm used to the grip of dslr and the biggest issue was the screen,it was hard to see and focus in the sun and in bright situations,i still have it and I'm teaching my daughter how to use it as when i go out i grab my 70d now.


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Jun 12, 2014 20:20 |  #29

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I recently thought I would like to try a mirrorless; one, because they are new. And two; because I travel lots for work and thought I wanted smaller and more portable.

I found a used samsung with a lens for a good deal after being pretty excited about its features and the reviews were great. I tried to like it, but the lens was crap. I got a adapter to use my canon lenses on it (without electronic communication though) and that helped a bit to try and like it, but it's way to small, it doesn't feel like a camera. I guess I'm used to the grip of DSLR. The biggest issue was the screen. It was hard to see and focus in the sun and in bright situations.

I still have it and I'm teaching my daughter how to use it as when i go out i grab my 70d now.

I edited this for clarity... I'm not trying to offend you, just being dyslexic it took me forever to read that, so hopefully this will help future readers ;)


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Jun 12, 2014 20:45 |  #30

Happy wife, happy life, so that's my pick.

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Though it may be the best camera you have ever used, the simple fact is that compared to Canon's competition, the EOS-M falls far short. That's not saying that it is a bad camera, just that compared to others, it's at the bottom of the list.

As to Canon's support, really? Canon has shown no interest in developing a mirrorless presence at least here in the USA. It's replacement was never marketed here, the EOS-M has been removed from it's USA website, and only 2 lenses are still shown. If that doesn't scream no interest, what does? Maybe sometime in the future they might try again, but the EOS-M is a clear example of a failed experiment.

while this may be true, it's still a very good system. You can keep your EF-s lenses and get an adapter, and you're golden, instant mirrorless system with a fair amount of lenses.

For smaller setups to compete against other mirrorless systems with small lenses:

Fast normal prime? 22mm F2, 50mm F1.8
Killer ultrawide on a budget? 10-18 IS STM
telephoto? 55-250 IS STM

Install magic lantern, and you can have something that can exceed other mirrorless options.

The M may be a dead format, but it doesnt really mean you'll be stuck with a dead format if you stick with EF-s lenses. It's pretty flexible and small.

SL1 should be another option. Familiarity of a DSLR and borderline mirrorless in size and weight.


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