Digital Photo Professional 4.0

Yes, EU = EOS Utility. EU 2 is version 2.14, which it updates to at the same time as the installer installs EU 3.0. Thus you get both versions on your computer here too, and have support for both the cameras included in DPP 4.0 as well as the older/simpler ones.

The new program does at least support fixing jpegs from a 7D, even if it perhaps doesn't support RAW images from that camera. I'm not sure I have any RAW files from anything but the 1DX here.

Keith R wrote in post #16976610
Can't comment on EU (yep, EOS Utility) though, as I don't use it.

Well, you will, if you want to use the ability to do in-line capture of images from DPP. It then links up with the new EOS Utility and allows you to trigger the camera from inside DPP, get the image transferred, review it and attempt some adjustments on the fly. If you aren't happy, you can from inside the program change camera settings and fire again.

Quite a lot better integration than before. Links up via USB, Gigabit Ethernet or Wi-Fi, as you prefer. The latter requires the WFT-E6 on a 1DX, of course.

It can't connect to the server for downloading lens data for optimized corrections, though. But DPP 3 can, so maybe data for the new version isn't available yet.

I have installed it on my computer.
You can still continue to use DPP 3.14.15. However it seems that all modifications done to a raw file in DPP 3.14.15 are not seen in DPP 4 and the same in the other direction.
I have also noticed that the user interface has been modified to look more modern.
The raw histogram has also some extensions (the most interesting is the ability to change the middle point) and there is now a possibility to adjust colors by range.
Looks like the HDR tool has disappeared.

yb98 wrote in post #16976637
I have installed it on my computer.
You can still continue to use DPP 3.14.15. However it seems that all modifications done to a raw file in DPP 3.14.15 are not seen in DPP 4 and the same in the other direction.
I have also noticed that the user interface has been modified to look more modern.
The raw histogram has also some extensions (the most interesting is the ability to change the middle point) and there is now a possibility to adjust colors by range.
Looks like the HDR tool has disappeared.

Thanks YB!!

Maxdave

Yes, the HDR and multiple exposure tools that were in DPP 3 aren't in DPP 4. But, as stated before, DPP 4 isn't an update to DPP 3, but a separate program, so you can still run the old one if you like.

The page from the manual posted at the beginning of the thread does not suggest any new features, so I can't see what the problem is for the large number of users that do not possess the supported cameras.

If there is some new, whiz bang thingy in v4, I would imagine it would be introduced into a version of DPP compatible with most existing raw .CR2 Canon cameras, eventually.

I would much prefer Canon to produce a sensor that does not exhibit pattern noise at ISO 100 instead of another disappointing 5D incarnation that simply produces 4k output for video and leaves still photographers shaking their heads. If the "new" DPP came up with a pattern noise filter that effectively addressed this long standing and obvious sensor limitation, I'd find a way to get it to run!

kirk

kirkt wrote in post #16977104
The page from the manual posted at the beginning of the thread does not suggest any new features, so I can't see what the problem is for the large number of users that do not possess the supported cameras.

Who said there's a problem? Some of us are simply curious enough about the new software to want to try it.

kirkt wrote in post #16977104
If the "new" DPP came up with a pattern noise filter that effectively addressed this long standing and obvious sensor limitation, I'd find a way to get it to run!

The "old" DPP could do this. On the very, very, very rare occasion that I encountered pattern noise from my 7D, DPP got rid of it easily.

And I don't see it at all in the output from my 70D...

I knew when I bought a 1Dx it would result is something good someday.

Well, then, to get things straight:

For those using cameras prior to the ones listed, you need DPP 3 (or older). DPP4 will not work with the Raw files.

For those with newer cameras, you need DPP4. DPP 3 won't work with the Raw files from the newer cameras.

Of course, if you have both old and new bodies, you'd need both 3 and 4, so it's good that the new DPP 4 install leaves DPP 3 in place!

Keith R wrote in post #16977218
The "old" DPP could do this. On the very, very, very rare occasion that I encountered pattern noise from my 7D, DPP got rid of it easily.

And I don't see it at all in the output from my 70D...

It's there in both of those APS-C crop sensors - if you do not push your shadows, you will not see it. DPP does not have a special pattern noise filter, as far as I have ever been able to get DPP to filter noise.

kirk

If DPP 4 brings no innovations, why was it born? Just for the "feel good" factor? A truly brilliant marketing ploy? Nothing sells like exclusivity. This is the same company that for years reserved DPP for EOS cameras only and consigned the G series Raws to the "unprofessional" ZoomBrowser/RIT until finally with the ill fated G10 (15 Mp on a 1/1.7 sensor, crop factor 4.5, OMG!) they sought to raise its prestige by opening the gates of DPP. For sure DPP 4 will be a winner in the "mine is bigger" contest.

tzalman wrote in post #16977938
If DPP 4 brings no innovations, why was it born? Just for the "feel good" factor? A truly brilliant marketing ploy? Nothing sells like exclusivity. This is the same company that for years reserved DPP for EOS cameras only and consigned the G series Raws to the "unprofessional" ZoomBrowser/RIT until finally with the ill fated G10 (15 Mp on a 1/1.7 sensor, crop factor 4.5, OMG!) they sought to raise its prestige by opening the gates of DPP. For sure DPP 4 will be a winner in the "mine is bigger" contest.

I don't know, I guess it's possible that the newer cameras just have so many new "features" that they wanted to release a version of DPP that supported all those features, but they kept the "older" version so that users wouldn't feel bogged down with new stuff that their cameras don't have...?

Even the older DPP3 has stuff that won't work for older cameras such as my 30D and 5DC, things like ALO are not functional, but they do show up in the NR/ALO tab...Oh Well.

I apologize to Canon. After searching the manual pdf I did find a significant new feature, other than the GUI window dressing. There is now an eight range HSL panel; a desirable addition.

Just confirming. The site accepted my 6D serial number. I installed DPP 4 on a Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit machine and a Windows 8.1 64-bit machine. Both installations went fine. Both computers still have DPP 3.14.15 installed and working properly.

DPP 4 appears to work just fine with any jpg file. I have cr2 files from several (not listed) cameras. DPP 4 will only edit raw files from my 6D. I tried it with raw files from a 450D, 500D and a 5D; it doesn't edit any of those.