Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM

Canon EOS 5D MkIII + Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM @19mm F/16

one thing i really like about this lens is the flare you get when you shoot directly at the sun. nice shot.

So, I would like an ultra wide lens, somewhere in the range of 15-23 (I already have the excellent 24-70 II). My thinking is that I am overpaying for this lens since I only need 16-23mm focal length on it.
Is my thinking flawed?

Is there a prime, somewhere between 15-20mm, that would be a better choice? Better meaning, less expensive, of course. There is not much to fault with this 16-35 f4.

I am only an occasional landscape shooter, by the way. I would be using it more as a street walk-around lens. But when you need to go wide, you need to go wide.

Thank you in advance.

p360 wrote in post #17984666
So, I would like an ultra wide lens, somewhere in the range of 15-23 (I already have the excellent 24-70 II). My thinking is that I am overpaying for this lens since I only need 16-23mm focal length on it.
Is my thinking flawed?

Is there a prime, somewhere between 15-20mm, that would be a better choice? Better meaning, less expensive, of course. There is not much to fault with this 16-35 f4.

there are a lot of used 17-40L's on the market now. if price is the deciding factor i'd be looking at those. i still like mine.

breakingmybankaccount wrote in post #17984679
there are a lot of used 17-40L's on the market now. if price is the deciding factor i'd be looking at those. i still like mine.

As he said the 17-40 is half the price of the 16-35 f4 and it's a very decent lens if you can get a good copy, also the tokina 12-24 could be a nice lens too and have similar price than canon 17-40

◄ 5D | Canon EF 16-35mm f/4 L IS USM ►

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^^^Cool shot Vadim!!!

p360 wrote in post #17984666
ultra wide lens, somewhere in the range of 15-23 (I already have the excellent 24-70 II)
[..]prime, somewhere between 15-20mm [..] less expensive, of course.
[..]occasional landscape shooter.
[..]street walk-around lens

marcial4 wrote in post #17984703
tokina 12-24

tokina should be not FF. Zeiss 15&18mm are not cheap. are u considering the Tamron 15-30? on POTN i've seen nice stuff.
cheap UWA prime ever is the famous Bower/Rokinon/Samyang 14mm 2.8, no AF. yet when you are so wide not a problem.
i'm using the sigma 12-24 and i think it's so wide it's sick! perfect for street-walking, cheaper than canons.
only is so dark 4.5-5.6, and has huge vignetting, so it's better shoot @F8 or F10..
voigtlander 15mm costs more than the sammy

METAL1 wrote in post #17984875
^^^Cool shot Vadim!!!

tokina should be not FF. Zeiss 15&18mm are not cheap. are u considering the Tamron 15-30? on POTN i've seen nice stuff.
cheap UWA prime ever is the famous Bower/Rokinon/Samyang 14mm 2.8, no AF. yet when you are so wide not a problem.
i'm using the sigma 12-24 and i think it's so wide it's sick! perfect for street-walking, cheaper than canons.
only is so dark 4.5-5.6, and has huge vignetting, so it's better shoot @F8 or F10..
voigtlander 15mm costs more than the sammy

Thank you METAL1 !

VaDimZH wrote in post #17984748
◄ 5D | Canon EF 16-35mm f/4 L IS USM ►

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Beautiful colours and great sun reflection.

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ShallowDoF wrote in post #17985367
Beautiful colours and great sun reflection.

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Thank you!

^^^Brilliant i know the place, always packed with tourists..
U solved easily, with great routine.. did u mind to share some EXIF & a little bit from story behind?
probably you went really early in the morning around 6AM, and / or used some ND10 or big stopper
(i see the silky water, and the dark shadows of people or vehicles on left near the monument's corner)
anyway you managed to save some "normal" shot as you freezed the seagulls, the pigeon, and the light clouds..

in fact, switching from 10-22 EFS to 12-24Σ, only pity i can't use my Ø77 filters anymore coz the bulb-front

METAL1 wrote in post #17985473
^^^Brilliant i know the place, always packed with tourists..
U solved easily, with great routine.. did u mind to share some EXIF & a little bit from story behind?
probably you went really early in the morning around 6AM, and / or used some ND10 or big stopper
(i see the silky water, and the dark shadows of people or vehicles on left near the monument's corner)
anyway you managed to save some "normal" shot as you freezed the seagulls, the pigeon, and the light clouds..

in fact, switching from 10-22 EFS to 12-24Σ, only pity i can't use my Ø77 filters anymore coz the bulb-front

Thanks. 16mm f/22 1.3 seconds. I had a 3-stop and 9-stop ND with me but didn't use them. It was around 5:30am from memory and there was nobody around except the usually taxi's on the right side of the Pantheon. I only cloned out some antenna's on the roof of the building on the left. I am not sure what you are seeing on left near the monument's corner. I then went off to the Spanish Steps and took some shots there without anybody on them. Here are a couple more from that day, all with the 16-35.

Thanks for your interest.

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