GH4 Disrupting the DSLR Video Market

Dave Dugdale (learningdslrvideo.com​) announced today he will be getting rid of all his Canon gear in favor of the new GH4 and compatible glass. A few other "smaller" names in the industry have also decided to transition away from Canon in favor of these new sub $4k cameras (BMPC, 4kBMCC, GH4, A7, etc).

Are we finally to a point where Canon will feel pressure to release an affordable camera to compete with these little monsters? Or will they stick with the status quo and prevent cannibalizing their C100/300/1DC cinema lines?

I am in the group of shooters who jumped on the DSLR bandwagon 5-7 years ago and have since invested in a ton of Canon glass while also upgrading bodies every couple years from t2i/xxd to 5dmkii to 5dmkiii/1DX. IMO this group is very large and is getting restless with Canon. We are several years removed from the 1DX/5dmkiii release with no signs of a new affordable camera on the horizon capable of competing with the GH4.

Right new I am split between jumping ship into one of these other platforms or ponying up the extra dough for a C100. After seeing the GH4 footage and reviews, it seems like a huge waste money to spend $6K on the C100.

I've only looked at the conclusion at the moment, but it seems as though Canon are resting on their laurels, each new model gets a few extra goodies but not game changers. I've been waiting for the 7D Mk2 as I think the 7D was the last camera that really changed things, seems as though Canon is taking it's user base for granted.

There are plenty of opportunities to compete when it comes to video: frame rates, global shutter, lower noise, higher ISO, increased dynamic range, moire/aliasing, dynamic focusing and focus tracking, better color science, etc.

Yes, there are certainly plenty of opportunities to compete. Canon just happens to be falling behind in almost every category in the sub $3K market.

Seems like they are usually late to the game but when they get there the product is well received, for instance the C100 and C300. There's no reason to be in a big hurry to produce 4k cameras just because a few manufacturers are starting to do so. The market for content is pretty thin. The GH4 generates some negative comments for noise (expected due to the sensor size) and the BM* cameras have a host of defects that make them essentially unusable for anything but cat videos, and the cat video aficionados might argue that point.

I am also a little disappointed with Canon's offering, to the point that I could consider changing brands. My issue is the fact I also like to shoot stills from my DSLR, and I'm not sold on M43 offerings yet. Although the Canon *only* has 11.7 stops of dynamic range, less than stellar ISO performance, etc from it's APS-C sensor, I've been quite happy with the stills I capture.

Honestly, based purely on numbers, I believe I'd be happiest with a Nikon full frame DSLR for stills (mainly due to resolution and dynamic range) and a true video camera for video (RED, etc). Of course, money is a factor here.

Damn I like the specs on that....

I love the 4k in GH4, but I don't think I can get same the quality same as canon.... That is only reason why I'm still holding canon.

I don't know... micro 4/3ds has good and bad points; the larger sensor wins for light-gathering, and I really, really like the ability to shoot available-light with my 5d3 in places where I CAN'T with an APS or smaller sensor, simply because each pixel covers more physical area and thus gathers more light, never mind the shallow d/o/f that enables.

Physics is a **** and there's really no way around it. It will be interesting when that camera is actually available (it's not very expensive) and some folks get some time with it in real-world shooting conditions. I suspect Canon isn't sitting on their hands, given the introduction of cameras like this -- if they are, they're going to get buried.

If you need the video quality get the gh4. I'm tempted, but I'm willing to see what canon does before the end of the year. They have to have something up their sleeve.

J Michael wrote in post #16987767
and the BM* cameras have a host of defects that make them essentially unusable for anything but cat videos, and the cat video aficionados might argue that point.

really? and you speak of this from OWNING a BM equipment yourself?

Kiwimochi wrote in post #16999827
really? and you speak of this from OWNING a BM equipment yourself?

If you'll send me your address I'll mail you a quarter and you can buy yourself a sense of humor.

Re the BM cameras their issues are well documented. The just released 1.8 firmware appears to address many of those, although I don't recall seeing FPN being addressed.

Sheeshh..typical respond bashing a product that people don't even own. Once again, do you own a bm yourself? Need to borrow one to actually get your ass out and shot it instead of hiding behind your monitor and keyboard to quote other and bashing something you don't even own. Get real dude.

Take a chill pill "dude".