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Lighting through blinds for a Noir look

 
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Jun 22, 2014 19:45 |  #1

The burlesque troupe that I shoot for has a themed show every month. I do pre-show photos, and sometimes try to tailor the look of those photos to the theme of the show. This month's theme is Noir, and I want to try to do the ol' cliche of lighting through blinds.

For lights, I have:
Two Elinchrom heads, two 26" square softboxes (no grids), one 12x56" strip box (no grid), and one Maxilite.
Three Speedlights with (2) 42" reflective and (2) 30" shoot-through umbrellas.
Plenty of stands & sandbags & clamps. no good boom yet though

I have a large set of blinds that I'll be taking to the venue (like 8'x8', with 2-inch-wide slats), maybe some velvet or other fabric for a backdrop. I may take some other props if I have room in the car - maybe the smoke machine for a little haze.

Here's the venue where I have to work. I've had good success in the past making a black background by shooting to the black wall on the right, and making a white background by shooting in the little space on the rear left of the stage (behind the ottoman).

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All the recent stuff in this album was shot there, either pre-show or during show.
https://www.flickr.com …r/sets/72157633​164540893/ (external link)

On the left is a rolling garage door with shiny foil-coated insulation. I'm thinking about the following setup: Have the blinds on the left edge of the stage, and a dark fabric backdrop across the back forming an "L" with the blinds. Main light would be an Elinchrom/Maxilite pointed at the shiny insulation to bounce it back toward the stage, through the blinds and at the subject. Additionally, one Speedlight in shoot-through umbrella for front fill, and the other Elinchrom in a stripbox for rear rim light.

I'm concerned that bouncing off the garage door might make the main light too wide and I'll lose the crispness of the blinds edges. Might just point the MaxiLite directly through the blinds... I dunno. Maybe one of the softboxes without the front diffuser.


I'm feeling inspired by this poster, don't want to rip it off entirely or duplicate it, but this is close to the look and style I'm going for:
http://www.dailymail.c​o.uk …-risqu-ratings-board.html (external link)


P.S. I've got about an hour to set up, then about an hour to shoot the whole cast (14-ish performers) and take down. In the past, this time limit hasn't been a problem, but I've used much simpler setups.

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Jun 22, 2014 20:25 |  #2

It's been a long time since I've done anything like this, but I'm pretty darn sure you're going to want a small focused light source and any bouncing will not give the look you want. Also, the shadow edges will be less defined the further the blinds are from the point where they hit the backdrop.

You might consider putting the blinds behind the backdrop you are lighting and backlighting them.

The images you link most likely use more than one light source and gobos rather than actual blinds. Gobos would have a lens that allows focusing of the light


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Jun 22, 2014 21:54 |  #3

He's gone is correct. You need direct light, placed close to the blinds in order to create the shadows you are looking for.


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