My case against UV filters for protection.

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Another example I stumbled across from a track photographer shooting me... notice the ghosting from the fog lights above the car. I don't know what filter she was using, but I've never seen this stuff without a filter.

Stamp wrote in post #17013051
Another image ruined by a UV filter.

Frankly, that is just a mediocre photo, with or without the flare and ghosting. Blaming the filter for "ruining" it kinda misses the point, don't you think? Maybe you could have entitled this thread "My case against harsh lighting and poor composition in landscape photography"

Stamp wrote in post #17040318

Ditto....

Doesn't negate the problem caused by the filter, which is the point of him posting the photo.

Tiberius wrote in post #17013818
Have you tried the same shot without the UV filter so we have a point of comparison?

Exactly....the only way to know for sure that it was the filter....or the lens...is by taking the same pix....same light...same time...same camera settings...within a very, very brief time.

Other than that it's just speculation.

Take it off then? I don't see the problem....

I like mine as it stops me from ruining my gear through shear clumsiness. Which btw, is me all over. Ok maybe doesn't stop me from ruining my gear but it certainly helps.

I work in the building trade and there is no getting away from sand. It's bloody everywhere!

LV Moose wrote in post #17040789
Doesn't negate the problem caused by the filter, which is the point of him posting the photo.

Some people don't get the point of a thread and think everything on this forum is up for critique on composition, lighting, etc...

BTW, Potisdad, I didn't take the picture, I was driving the car, so talk crap about it all you want, it still has ghosting caused by a filter. Get with the program.

LV Moose wrote in post #17035476
At the risk of starting another filter/no filter debate, I see no reason for UV filters unless you're in blowing dust/sand, or sea spray, etc.

totally agree....

Stamp wrote in post #17043911
Get with the program.

But shouldn't "get with the program" be to show two photos taken at the same time and same location - with and without a filter?

Comparisons can't be done without anything to compare with...

Stamp wrote in post #17043911
Some people don't get the point of a thread and think everything on this forum is up for critique on composition, lighting, etc...

My comments about lighting and composition were directed at the fact that the camera was pointed towards the sun, not a slight on your artistic efforts. I would expect my 17-40mm (and most other wide lenses) to flare in that situation too and I don't even own a UV filter. Yes, a filter will exacerbate the problem but even a bare lens will flare in the right conditions.

As other posters have pointed out, a filter/no filter comparison would have made it clear that the UV filter was the problem. I think that the flare in your photo is a technical error and the UV filter is not entirely to blame.

Potisdad wrote in post #17044829
My comments about lighting and composition were directed at the fact that the camera was pointed towards the sun, not a slight on your artistic efforts.

So that's why you quoted the photo of the car with no sun in it?


For myself, I don't need to have comparison photos at the same time, with and without a UV filter. 95% of my shooting time is without filters, so I have some relatively comparable shots throughout the years. The only time I've ever seen this sort of thing happen was when a UV filter was on the lens, and I don't change the way I shoot. Try it yourselves if you're not happy with my diagnosis of the problem. I'd look at your results, but I don't need to spend the time to convince myself.

Stamp wrote in post #17051025
So that's why you quoted the photo of the car with no sun in it?

The light source producing the ghosts there are the fog lamps, not the sun, but the same principle applies. Was a filter even used in that shot?

Stamp wrote in post #17051025
Try it yourselves if you're not happy with my diagnosis of the problem.

Ok. I stepped outside this morning and took these shots.

No filter, 2 pretty little green ghosts

I don't have a UV filter, but I did screw on my B+W MRC polariser. Lots more flare, but still ghosting. Actually 1 of the ghosts disappeared with the filter

Oooo I even got a rainbow on this one! Small ghost bottom left on the lawn. No filter used.