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May 01, 2015 14:49 |  #721

No, not NiCAD, those are older battery technology flawed with memory effect. it's Li-ion, better than Ni-MH, faster recycle time, but require proprietary battery and not standard AA. While it generally not an issue, during emergency could be. There is also a problem I heard about overheat. Since these use Li-ion and they recycle very quick, perhaps too quick, they tend to wear off the capacitor very quick also. I'm not sure how truthful it is, but it was one of the thing I read when I was thinking about getting one.




  
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May 05, 2015 01:30 |  #722

Sorry for the possibly already-answered/n00b question. I've got a 430ex II that I use in remote manual (YN-622C-TX on-camera and 622C on-flash) for rim light and looking to add another non-Canon flash. However, I'm trying to figure out what YN flashes I can use in remote manual that are compatible with this same combo. I don't need ETTL or anything fancy, just the ability to control both flashes in remote manual mode (and separate groups).

Any help would be great. Thanks, all.




  
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May 05, 2015 02:01 |  #723

Fligi7 wrote in post #17544040 (external link)
Sorry for the possibly already-answered/n00b question. I've got a 430ex II that I use in remote manual (YN-622C-TX on-camera and 622C on-flash) for rim light and looking to add another non-Canon flash. However, I'm trying to figure out what YN flashes I can use in remote manual that are compatible with this same combo. I don't need ETTL or anything fancy, just the ability to control both flashes in remote manual mode (and separate groups).

Any help would be great. Thanks, all.

I understand you want to use the flash in manual mode remotely. Well, it is my understanding that the ability to use camera to manually control flash output rely on TTL. This mean you can't just get a manual flash and expect to pop it on to 622C and have the camera adjust power, the only thing it will do is trigger. If you don't need to control flash power remotely then any manual flash will do, the group will be separate by each 622c that the flash mounted on.




  
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May 05, 2015 06:06 |  #724

Fligi7 wrote in post #17544040 (external link)
Sorry for the possibly already-answered/n00b question. I've got a 430ex II that I use in remote manual (YN-622C-TX on-camera and 622C on-flash) for rim light and looking to add another non-Canon flash. However, I'm trying to figure out what YN flashes I can use in remote manual that are compatible with this same combo. I don't need ETTL or anything fancy, just the ability to control both flashes in remote manual mode (and separate groups).

Any help would be great. Thanks, all.

Check out Clive's TOYUG in his signature link. This is an unofficial user guide for the 622 system and will answer any question you have. In the beginning parts of it, it covers compatible flashes and bodies.




  
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May 05, 2015 06:07 |  #725

Here's the link... https://docs.google.co​m …7OmmGIg0gMVFpqN​kpBYXBHajA (external link)




  
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May 05, 2015 06:13 as a reply to  @ MedicinSC's post |  #726

From the guide, the following flashes will provide remote manual control. The first two will also give you High Speed Sync. I'm not sure why the 467 or 468 are in parentheses (maybe the guide says, but I just quickly copied the flash models). It may be that they were untested when the guide was written.

YN-500EX, YN-568EX YN-465, YN-467 II, YN-468 II, YN-565,

YN-565 II (YN-467, YN468 ?)




  
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May 05, 2015 15:03 |  #727

Thanks for the prompt replies, all. It confirms my inclination to believe the YN 468 Ex II should meet my needs (and ostensibly match my existing 430 ex II).




  
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May 05, 2015 15:48 |  #728

CliveyBoy wrote in post #17535458 (external link)
How are you determining the resulting output? What exposure settings?Are you pressing Set/OK after turning C.Fb 05 to ON?

I have just checked with a 550EX, and it works fine. I do have groups B and C OFF.


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I was using a light meter to measure the exposure, but it was evident from the image that the flash power didn't change. If I set the power on the flash, the difference was obvious. My exposure remained constant, ISO 200, F6.3 @ 1/30 sec. I pressed set after turning on C.Fb 05. I initially had the flash mode on the camera (5D Mark III) set to group (Gr) and changed it to manual (M), but that didn't make a difference. I don't think I tried the flash mode set to ETTL. Groups B and C were not set to off. I'll try again with Groups B and C off as soon as I have a chance to get back to it.


ksbal wrote in post #17535907 (external link)
full power pops happen when not seated all the way onto the trigger. I have a couple 622s I have to seat the 430ex2 flash pretty forcefully that last notch. Something to double check (or triple, it happens with mine sometimes and that always seems to solve it)

I was finally able to get back to using the C-TX with the 430EX in remote manual, and everything worked as it should with the C-TX. I reseated the flash and the controller when I started. I'm guessing that was the issue. It worked fine with Groups B and C both off and on.




  
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May 08, 2015 10:50 |  #729

Is the YN565EX the only Yongnuo flash that is fully compatible with the 622's that has an external battery port? There isn't a whole lot of info on the site about this flash, does anyone own one?


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May 08, 2015 18:24 |  #730

I'd like some guidance please concerning the YN-622C, the YN-622C-TX and possibly the YN-600EX-RT. Here's my current camera and lighting equipment and then I'll share my questions.

I have a Canon 5D Mark III [Class I camera], 2 @ Canon 580EX (Version 1) & a Canon 550EX [Both Class II Flashes], a Quantum Q-Flash and Norman Studio pack and heads. I've been using the Radio Popper Px system for ETTL (and I don't like them) and the Quantum FreeXwire transmitter and receivers for Manual triggering. I do understand that I'd need to use an individual YN-622c on each OFF-CAMERA flash. I'm trying to determine beforehand my best options for use of my existing lighting equipment. For non-Studio work, it's nice to have the flexibility of using either ETTL or Manual and my current Radio Poppers and Quantum triggers will only do one or the other, so it's time to investigate YongNuo.

After reviewing the TOYUG, I understand that my Canon Class II flashes will NOT give me the full use of the features on the YN-622c or the YN-622c-TX. Although I prefer to use off-camera flash on a light stand or monopod, there are times that it's helpful to ALSO use the flash ON CAMERA for a bit of fill in addition to OCF. Since the YN-622c in the camera's hot shoe allows mounting of a flash on top of the transceiver, this appears to be easier and less clumsy than mounting the flash directly to the hot shoe and then somehow physically mounting a YN-622c-TX to the camera and using a PC sync cord into the camera's PC input port. Outside of the "clumsy" issue, is there any technical reason to prefer the YN-622c-TX over the YN-622c? Has anyone wrestled with this issue?

Alternately if I purchased a YN-600EX-RT to use ON CAMERA (without use of a YN-622c in the camera's hot shoe), would I then be able to ETTL and MANUAL control my Canon Class II flashes (580EX and 550EX) by affixing a YN-622c to the hot shoe of the off-camera Canon flashes AND take advantage of all the wireless capabilities to include ratios, zoom, groups, etc.?

And if I didn't purchase a YN-600EX-RT and planned on using full Manual for the ON CAMERA FILL and the OFF CAMERA flashes, must I use the YN 622c's on each flash and adjust the slave speedlite power settings by walking to each speedlite and physically increasing or decreasing the power vs. adjusting this done at the camera?

I'd appreciate very much input from anyone who understands the issues I've raised. Thanks.

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May 09, 2015 08:24 as a reply to  @ mmfclu's post |  #731

This may help part of your problem. I was faced with the same dilemma of using the TX on camera and losing the fill from the shooter perspective as well. I found an old hinged flash mount at a garage sale. I mounted a cold shoe on the top and secure the handle mechanism to the camera's tripod attachment point. I then have the hot shoe for the TX, and mount the 622C and flash on the top of the handle. Please excuse the poor quality, as I just took the shots with my cell phone to show you quickly what I did.

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May 10, 2015 15:26 as a reply to  @ golfecho's post |  #732

Golfecho, thanks for the idea and the photo! This allows you to use the functionality of the 622c-TX and also trigger your OCF as a fill.

I have a flash bracket that allows me to position the flash directly above the lens. You might want to explore this. I have been using it with the Canon OC cord with one end connected to the hot shoe and the other to the flash for ETTL. Using your idea, I can put the 622c on the bracket/flash combo and keep the 622c-TX on the hot shoe.

One question: Is it easier to adjust the FEC on the 622c-TX rather than if I used the External Flash Panel of my flash/622c directly on the hot shoe [and also sacrifice some TX functions]? The reason I started looking at the 622c-TX is that I am used to simply twirling the dial on my Canon flashes to easily change the Flash Exposure Compensation.




  
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May 10, 2015 23:30 |  #733

Hi! I'm new to the forum and to the YN-622.
I have a Canon 420EX and just got a YN-568EX II together with 1 622C-TX and 2 622C. So far everything is working well: I can control everything on the YN-568 through the C-TX and also can make the 420EX work in manual mode.
The only thing that seems not to work is to manually control the zoom of the 420EX.
I've tried reseting all the 622s and enabling/disabling c-fn 5 on C-TX.
Has anybody experienced the same issue with 420EX?

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May 11, 2015 06:06 |  #734

disanro wrote in post #17551428 (external link)
The only thing that seems not to work is to manually control the zoom of the 420EX.

Same with my 380EX. That's normal for the older flashes.




  
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May 11, 2015 06:47 |  #735

mmfclu wrote in post #17550898 (external link)
One question: Is it easier to adjust the FEC on the 622c-TX rather than if I used the External Flash Panel of my flash/622c directly on the hot shoe [and also sacrifice some TX functions]? The reason I started looking at the 622c-TX is that I am used to simply twirling the dial on my Canon flashes to easily change the Flash Exposure Compensation.

The reason I used this bracket is because I have other flashes out there, and as such, I would prefer to control them all from the one place. Once I start messing with one locally, I can see myself forgetting what I did where. Even though this is right on camera, I just prefer to keep the same process no matter how I have them mounted. (I have enough trouble remembering which is group A, or B, or C). That's just my technique.

The only caveat to this rig is the weight and balance. I developed it when I needed to use other lights around the room for general fill, and needed something local for the actual shot, as I was moving around a large area to cover multiple aspects of the event. When I need just a local fill, I just put the light on the camera hot shoe which is overall much lighter.


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