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Is usded 14L II worth $1100?

 
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Jul 08, 2014 10:32 |  #1

Hello,

I have 8-15 F4L, 16-35 4L IS, 17 TSE, Samyang 14 2.8. Here is a deal on used 14L II for $1100. Is it wise to add it to my current wide angle kit? Purpose: sometimes I like to take milky way shots. Bought Samyang 14 2.8, but I am not happy about it, especially corner sharpness on f2.8. Maybe it is because I bought Nikon version to have AF confirmation and used EF adapter? I think I could sell it localy for $300. So my question, is $800 worth to upgrade to 14L II?




  
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Jul 08, 2014 10:36 |  #2

For 1100?? Heck yeah. Whats the condition of the lens? Thats a pretty deep discount I would think, even for used.


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Jul 08, 2014 10:39 |  #3

Heya,

It's 50% off new cost. So that's a really good deal, assuming it's a legit 14L II and in at least good quality.

The problem you are describing about the Samyang 14 F2.8 is odd to me. It's every bit as good as the 14L in sharpness and corners and all that.

But if you can get the 14L II for 3 times the cost, and you want AF, and you have the money to toss, why not?

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Jul 08, 2014 10:39 |  #4

Condition is very good lite use. Other opionions? :D




  
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Jul 08, 2014 10:40 |  #5

I compared 14L II and Samyang handshots, 14L was way better ...




  
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Jul 08, 2014 10:56 |  #6

I would snatch that right up. 14L II is amazing.


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Jul 08, 2014 10:57 |  #7

I'd buy that in a hurry! I regret selling mine.


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Jul 08, 2014 11:02 |  #8

David and Invetalon, why you think 14L II is good lens? Many people trash it like no one ..




  
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Jul 08, 2014 11:30 as a reply to  @ Shift7's post |  #9

I'd even go for it!




  
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Jul 08, 2014 11:35 |  #10

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David and Invetalon, why you think 14L II is good lens? Many people trash it like no one ..

It is undoubtedly one of the most unfairly disparaged lenses, but I think the reason all stems from the Samyang, which is both dirt cheap and sharper. Brand new, the 14L II is very expensive. However, I've always been skeptical about the actual sharpness of the Samyang because it's very distorted and correcting the distortion in post is going to take a toll on the sharpness of the final image. The 14L II is very well rectified - better than any other 14mm lens - including the Nikon 14-24mm. Anyway, I just think the Samyang worked as a spoiler to the 14L II.

Those who only consider sharpness and cost in their lens evaluations have voiced - rather loudly - that the Samyang is the obvious choice and that buying the 14L II is crazy-stupid. However, I took a long long look poring over hundreds of image samples (here at POTN as well as on Flickr) and considered color rendition, contrast, distortion, etc. And I came to the opposite conclusion: the 14L II was, to me, the superior product.

So, it may not be quite as sharp as the cheap Samyang, but it is plenty sharp. It is as sharp as the highly esteemed TS-E 17mm (I still own the TS-E 17mm, but had them at the same time), and it's very well-corrected for distortion, CA, etc.

It's true that AF is not a particularly needed thing for a 14mm lens, but it sure is nice. And that's another nicety the Samyang doesn't offer.

Why did I sell mine if I love it so much? Just came down to usability. Frankly it is a really challenging focal length to use. The 114 degree field of view is huge and finding suitable subjects for a 14mm lens is more challenging than longer focal lengths. I loved having it, but just didn't give it the amount of use I feel a lens needs to have to stay in my bag.

Here is a sample shot at f/2.8, yet it is already quite sharp...and check out that color rendition: ;)

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To counter my positive statements above, I'll also say this: That's the same price for a brand new EF 16-35mm f/4L IS USM. I probably will buy that lens eventually, and likely won't ever re-buy the 14mm (which makes me sad); although I would be very very tempted by that price. Going with the 16-35mm f/4L zoom just means I will use it more because of the zoom flexibility.

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Jul 08, 2014 12:17 |  #11

So I have now already 16-35 4L IS and 17TSE :} So because of that I am asking about 14L II ;]




  
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Jul 08, 2014 12:31 |  #12

Shift7 wrote in post #17018937 (external link)
So I have now already 16-35 4L IS and 17TSE :} So because of that I am asking about 14L II ;]

Yep, that wasn't a buying suggestion for you, just being totally candid about my own lens ownership thought process, which I admit is at odds with my highly favorable view of the 14L II.


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Jul 08, 2014 12:54 |  #13

Thanks David




  
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Jul 08, 2014 14:00 |  #14

Send me a link to that lens so I can verifying it for you. ;)


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Jul 08, 2014 15:11 |  #15

It is located in eastern Europe :p And I think I decided to buy it :D




  
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