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Jul 15, 2014 06:03 |  #1

Anybody remember that magic re-focus video that Adobe showed a while back? It had people ooo'ing and ahh'ing in an audience and it was pretty phenomenal. Anybody know if it ever came the way of a product or a working piece of Photoshop? It's been a while now and nothing but crickets since the demo as far as I can tell. Anybody heard anything?




  
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Jul 15, 2014 06:08 |  #2

http://www.amazon.com …ra-Graphite/dp/B0099QUSGM (external link)

This camera has the ability to refocus after the shot. Although I am not sure how good it is.


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Jul 15, 2014 06:26 |  #3

I had thought is was part of CC already. For those not wanting CC, it looks like Gimp also offers the feature as well.
http://refocus-it.sourceforge.net/ (external link)


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Jul 15, 2014 06:40 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #4

That gimp opensource item is pretty old, 10 years now, I thought the Adobe demo was more recent than this? They took blurry scenery, and when they ran their algorithm on it, you could see pretty detailed people, etc. I don't know what happened since. Perhaps Adobe simply incorporated what Gimp has, but didn't divulge the source of the code?

Here is a video and sample image from the 2011 presentation.

http://fstoppers.com …y-photos-sharp-again-7211 (external link)
http://www.extremetech​.com …uploads/2013/04​/Plaza.jpg (external link)

More info, only on the cloud I guess

http://www.extremetech​.com …ud-subscription-to-use-it (external link)

The content-aware feature is quite cool too, along with the deblur function.


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Jul 15, 2014 06:51 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #5

I have a Lytro already. :)

Was is CC?

Anybody know anything about ADOBE's implementation or lack thereof? Y'all really ought to seek out that video. This demo was magnitudes beyond what these other products offer (Aside from the Lytro, of course, which is a totally different animal altogether.). This was one-click magic, and if you haven't seen it, you don't know what I'm talking about. The stuff used in the demo was SEVERELY OOF.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 06:53 |  #6

CC is creative cloud. It means renting photoshop from Adobe via a monthly fee. Personally I havn't signed up for CC so I cannot comment on whether the refocus feature is there or not.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 06:55 as a reply to  @ WilsonFlyer's post |  #7

Uh-oh. Hadn't seen this.

http://www.groovypost.​com …it-with-rigged-tech-demo/ (external link)




  
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Jul 15, 2014 06:57 |  #8

you could try this?

http://akvis.com …enshots-sharpen-photo.php (external link)#

or

http://www.unicontel.c​om/ (external link)

(i havn't tried them, just googling)




  
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Jul 15, 2014 06:57 |  #9

Ratjack wrote in post #17032881 (external link)
http://www.amazon.com …ra-Graphite/dp/B0099QUSGM (external link)

This camera has the ability to refocus after the shot. Although I am not sure how good it is.

The Lytro method of after the fact focusing is due primarily to hardware design and to a lesser degree processing. They are soon coming out with a new model called the Illum, which looks quite interesting.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 07:01 |  #10

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The Lytro method of after the fact focusing is due primarily to hardware design and to a lesser degree processing. They are soon coming out with a new model called the Illum, which looks quite interesting.

Mine's already on pre-order. You're right. It's a totally different technology. I bought the original on pre-order too. :)




  
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Jul 15, 2014 07:03 |  #11

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CC is creative cloud. It means renting photoshop from Adobe via a monthly fee. Personally I havn't signed up for CC so I cannot comment on whether the refocus feature is there or not.

Gotcha. Missed the acronym since I'm so used to seeing LR and PS. I'm on CC. :) I'll try the deblur and see what that does.

Don't need it for any particular project or photo. I was and am more curious about the technology itself.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 07:05 |  #12

That is a bit overblown. Motion blur of the photographer can be emulated with the blur tools in Photoshop, so I understand completely why you would take a photo, blur it, then run it through your new software to see how it does. Who cares whether the image was blurred because the photographer moved, vs using a blurring algorithm to blur the image the same way.

In any case, the software works, they used a couple of "bad" examples (I call them test cases during development) to show the public, it doesn't take away from the tech. That is what happens when you pull software engineers in to do a product demo. :)


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Jul 15, 2014 07:06 |  #13

John from PA wrote in post #17032948 (external link)
The Lytro method of after the fact focusing is due primarily to hardware design and to a lesser degree processing. They are soon coming out with a new model called the Illum, which looks quite interesting.

Not to mention, you don't get standard raw or JPG photo files from that camera. You get a proprietary "light field" file, and have to use their site to host/share/manipulate the image (or their software if they supply it with the camera purchase).

Also, I believe, there are some competitors coming head-on at that product.


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Jul 15, 2014 09:32 |  #14

Back to the whole "re-focusing" in software concept: this is something which we'll probably be seeing more of in the future. It's possible to improve the focus on an OOF image using algorithms which perform convolution / deconvolution on the image space.

The drawback is that re-focusing an image will introduce noise and/or reduce the resolution. A friend of mine developed some code to do this for forensic applications and confirmed that if you have a very clean source, it can do impressive things. Good enough for a quality print? Depends on the resolution, original quality and how out of focus it was.


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Jul 15, 2014 12:16 |  #15

Yup, deconvolution of optical blur (lens imperfections or OOF) has been around for a while and will probably continue to improve.

The Adobe thing was not "re-focusing" but motion blur removal - claiming to figure out the vector path of how the camera moved during the exposure and finding the sharp image that would have created the acquired one by deconvoluting the motion with that image. It seemed to be an evolution of the existing "simple" motion blur removal tools where you specify the angle and the number of pixels moved.

Lytro is something completely different:D


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