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An FBI Counterterrorism Agent Tracked Me Down Because I Took a Picture of This

 
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Jul 15, 2014 10:03 |  #1

https://www.aclu.org …wn-because-i-took-picture (external link)

Be careful where you point your camera, the Staatssicherheit are watching you.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 10:09 |  #2

Wow. What a waste of OUR monies.


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Jul 15, 2014 11:13 |  #3

TBH, I don't mind them checking you (or me) out just to be sure you are who you said you were. If it had gone beyond that to charges, that would be a very different matter.


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Jul 15, 2014 11:17 |  #4

my how the lines have blurred




  
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Jul 15, 2014 11:22 |  #5

You can use Google Street View to go most of the way around this tank. And there are very detailed pictures accompanying the Street View. I'd say it's time the Feds start investigating Google.

Oh wait.....


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Jul 15, 2014 11:23 |  #6

"Protect us! but everyone is perfect without a single evil thought in their minds, so you shouldn't question anyone or do anything to protect us!"

There is enough energy to level a large chunk of a sizeable city in one of those tanks if you know what you are doing with one, so of course there is zero reason to care whatsoever when someone is seen taking an unusual level of interest in such a facility.


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Jul 15, 2014 11:23 |  #7

I wouldn't fret it. Innocent people have nothing to hide. The security people are just doing their job. Stopping terrorism is like look for a needle in a haystack.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 11:31 |  #8

It is the attitude of "if I didn't do anything wrong, then I won't be in trouble" that is allowing our leaders to take our once great constitutional republic towards totalitarianism. What people don't realize is that the government has and will accelerate use of unconstitutional powers to build absolute power over the people. They already abuse these powers to punish those who try to make public the dirty side of government and the list of undesirables will only grow over time.


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Jul 15, 2014 11:34 |  #9

chantu wrote in post #17033505 (external link)
I wouldn't fret it. Innocent people have nothing to hide. The security people are just doing their job. Stopping terrorism is like look for a needle in a haystack.

That was dated 2004...the security guards generated an investigation based on those times so close to 911....The response was not quick enough in my opinion.




  
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Jul 15, 2014 11:46 |  #10

Happened to me.

Two CT agents visited me for taking photos of inbound aircraft from a public parking lot near an airport. Someone called in my plates and said I acted suspiciously. LOL...I was in plain view with a 600mm lens, not exactly a covert operation. Asked me a bunch of basic questions. They were polite, told me to call if I were to continue...just to give them a heads up.


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Jul 15, 2014 11:55 |  #11

False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction.

- Cesare Beccaria

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

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Jul 15, 2014 11:59 |  #12

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #17033584 (external link)
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

- Benjamin Franklin

Easy words in a time when the most advanced and devastating weapon the world had was thousands of soldiers who could fire 3 shots a minute. But for now, when one man can potentially kill millions in the blink of an eye?

Times have changed.


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Jul 15, 2014 12:03 |  #13

suspicious activity reporting program,so this is how they spend our money! all in the name of security ha.


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Jul 15, 2014 12:07 |  #14

Luckless wrote in post #17033597 (external link)
Easy words in a time when the most advanced and devastating weapon the world had was at hand were thousands of soldiers who can fire 3 shots a minute. But for now, when one man can potentially kill millions in the blink of an eye?

Times have changed.

Nonsense.

Liberty does not change due to technology. The change is due to laziness, lack of sense and moral failure.

You are free to sacrifice your liberty for whatever whim you fancy. You are not, however, free to surrender mine.


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Jul 15, 2014 12:19 |  #15

Erik S. Klein wrote in post #17033616 (external link)
Nonsense.

Liberty does not change due to technology. The change is due to laziness, lack of sense and moral failure.

You are free to sacrifice your liberty for whatever whim you fancy. You are not, however, free to surrender mine.

So no one should ever possibly question someone wandering around acting in what they deem a suspicious manner? The fact that you quoted that line would suggest that you feel that someone potentially asking you what you are doing, and you telling them, is to give up your liberty.

I would then have to assume that you are perfectly fine with some nut case planing bombs, thereby killing hundreds or thousands of people should never possibly have had someone stop and ask what he was doing. Or possibly stop and ask why he was buying the suspiciously odd volumes of materials that could potentially be used for such devices?

After all, maybe he doesn't want to carry that small packet with him, so he is just hiding it somewhere and planning to come back and get it in a few minutes, or he is leaving it as a surprise for a friend.

No one should EVER face the HORROR of someone Questioning their perfectly peaceful actions!

Clearly law enforcement should only ever talk to criminals! I'm sure if we ask nicely all the criminals will wear an arm band or something for us so we can easily pick them out in a crowd...


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