Manual lenses and EG-s scree

So I just sold my 24-105 and Ill be solely working with manual lenses now, I think I may trade off the 14mm Rokinon for a 24 or so but for now the 14, 35 and 85 are all manual lenses.

Someone in a separate thread may a suggestion that I should pick up and EG-s 6 screen for my 6D, is that something that I really need, I'm new to manual focus and I often use my viewfinder so will this improve the quality of my pictures, or better worded will this cause me to be more confident using the viewfinder? Is the installation super hard?

For the fast lenses the EG-S should be very helpfull.
With the 14mm the normal screen should work well. With f/2.0 you coudl probably guess the right focus with the normal screen too. But at f/1.4 the EG-S should bring higher focus accuracy.
Additional you see the right bokeh in the viewfinder, not only ~f/2.8 bokeh like with the normal screen.

Some users saying it is super easy to change focusing screen.
I ended up with camera VF clogged by dust and scratches on focusing screen.
Luckily, I have have extra long warranty to fix this fiasco.

I like normal focusing screen after all. Because you could see it clear everywhere and focus at any point, not just at the center.

I find best focus accuracy for me with focus confirmed chips and camera AF points.
Works much more better in low light.

But the best is modern MF Cosina Zeiss primes with AF points and aperture selection from camera.

Old MF lenses susks on small apertures on DSLR, even at 5.6 it is too dark in VF.

kf095 wrote in post #17040020
Some users saying it is super easy to change focusing screen.
I ended up with camera VF clogged by dust and scratches on focusing screen.
Luckily, I have have extra long warranty to fix this fiasco.

I like normal focusing screen after all. Because you could see it clear everywhere and focus at any point, not just at the center.

I find best focus accuracy for me with focus confirmed chips and camera AF points.
Works much more better in low light.

But the best is modern MF Cosina Zeiss primes with AF points and aperture selection from camera.

Old MF lenses susks on small apertures on DSLR, even at 5.6 it is too dark in VF.

No offense, but I really don't know how anyone could mess up changing a focus screen, it's no more complex than changing a lens.

Also, the EG-S screen is not a split prism screen... that's why it's so useful. You can focus anywhere in the VF and the effect is the same, not just in the center. Focus confirm chips can be nice aids, but they're not nearly as accurate as an EG-S screen. I only use focus confirmation if the lens is stopped down or if I'm shooting a moving subject and don't mind just being in the ballpark for peak focus. As for the dark VF... it fully depends on what you're shooting. If you're shooting in low light or a dark subject than open the lens fully to focus, then stop it down to take the shot. I've done entire portrait sessions with flash at f/8 with my Rokinon 85mm... it wasn't that big of a deal to have to focus wide open and then stop down. Out in good light I can focus just fine with my lens stopped down to f/8 and even beyond.

OP; it was me who suggested it in another thread, and yes, it makes a huge difference. If you want proof just ask in one of the Samyang threads (most users there use them) or in the MF adapted lens thread (same story here).

The screen is $35 and takes less than a minute to install. There is only one tool needed and it comes with the screen. All you do is take off the lens, push a little lever to drop the screen down, grab it with the tool the give you, grab the new screen with that tool and put it where the old one was, then you just close the door for the screen and put your lens back on... it seriously takes me 30 seconds to do, Iv'e done it twice because I was curious what the stock screen would look like now that I'm used to the EG-S and now I'm sure that I'm never going back to the stock screen.

I had my 6D only one day before my EG-S arrived in the mail.
Makes a visible difference in the viewfinder on any lens faster than f2.8
I enjoy MF more because of it. Zero regrets.
If you only uses lenses slower than f2.8 you will not see a difference.

PS: Make sure to change the CN function for the EG-S screen after installing, for proper metering .

If I was shooting fully manual lenses, I'd look at a mirrorless camera, specifically the A7(r) which using the EVF with it's focus peaking...it makes manual focus a pleasure. Before my A7R, I used a 5d2 with EGS screen and manual focus is night and day compared to the A7r.

Hogloff wrote in post #17040628
If I was shooting fully manual lenses, I'd look at a mirrorless camera, specifically the A7(r) which using the EVF with it's focus peaking...it makes manual focus a pleasure. Before my A7R, I used a 5d2 with EGS screen and manual focus is night and day compared to the A7r.

Unless you shoot at night or are shooting moving objects, then you'll miss the OVF real quick. I've rarely had any issues focusing via the OVF on my 6D, it's not that hard with a little practice and patience.

Hogloff wrote in post #17040628
If I was shooting fully manual lenses, I'd look at a mirrorless camera, specifically the A7(r) which using the EVF with it's focus peaking...it makes manual focus a pleasure. Before my A7R, I used a 5d2 with EGS screen and manual focus is night and day compared to the A7r.

Thanks for that. I am looking to get a mirror less body for my collection of FD and M42 fit lenses.

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #17040686
Unless you shoot at night or are shooting moving objects, then you'll miss the OVF real quick. I've rarely had any issues focusing via the OVF on my 6D, it's not that hard with a little practice and patience.

I have no issues focusing in dim conditions, what issues are you talking about? As far as shooting moving objects, how does a OVF help over an EVF for moving objects?

You've made a couple of statements that don't make sense to me.

Hogloff wrote in post #17041734
I have no issues focusing in dim conditions, what issues are you talking about? As far as shooting moving objects, how does a OVF help over an EVF for moving objects?

You've made a couple of statements that don't make sense to me.

Because of the lag from the EVF when shooting in dim environments or with stopped down lenses. I also find the extra gain to be distracting. Again, I prefer a good OVF, there's no blanket solution out there for everyone.