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Jul 19, 2014 05:45 |  #1

Hello everyone

I did some research & found that the optimal shutter speed 1/50.

Great.
Shot a video with my 5d mkii & 17-40L at f/4 40mm & 1/50.

Turned out good. Smooth enough.

See here:
http://youtu.be/vh8Vlg​DtMAQ (external link)

As you can see, it right around sunset but exposure turned out.

Today I did another shoot at noon with my 35L.

At iso 100 (apparently Video mode doesn't allow you use the iso 50 option), f/1.6 the camera struggling because it was too bright .
The 1/8000 kept flashing, the camera wanted to stop down to balance exposure.
Finally I stopped down to f/6.3 and that reduced shutter speed to around 1/6400.


Needless to say it was jittery. Movement was shaky.

See here: (2gb file)

https://www.dropbox.co​m …lrqiw2ydpul5/MV​I_5847.MOV (external link)

Plus, I didn't get to use the aperture i wanted (f/1.6).

So how does one get that cinematic effect bright daylight?

I'm stumped.

Thanks.


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Jul 19, 2014 10:44 |  #2

Use a neutral density filter


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Jul 19, 2014 11:36 as a reply to  @ artyman's post |  #3

What do you reckon would bring a required 1/8000 down to 1/50 or 1/60?

1.2 nd?


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Jul 19, 2014 13:37 |  #4

I Picked up a marumi vari nd rates as 2-400.


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Jul 19, 2014 17:21 |  #5

One stop would be 1/4000, 2 stops 1/2000 etc so 7 stops or thereabouts


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Jul 19, 2014 17:43 |  #6

Thank you


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Aug 08, 2014 14:11 |  #7

So how many stops would the filter I get reduce for me?


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Aug 09, 2014 09:25 |  #8

Depends on what filter you get. Just google ND filters to understand how they work and what you need.


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Aug 09, 2014 10:41 |  #9

I understand how they work.

Also ,I mention above which I got:

marumi vari nd rates as 2-400.

The 2-400 description is throwing me off.

I know they're sold by stops.

What's 2-400?

How many stops.


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Aug 09, 2014 13:10 |  #10

http://www.amazon.com …ter-Digital/dp/B0065SPKEM (external link)

Quick google search looking at Amazon shows the number of F stops in the description


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Aug 09, 2014 13:33 |  #11

Yet you made it a point not to mention it here....

It's not about anything....but letting others benefit. That Amazon link oud here today, could be gone tomorrow.


It's 9 stops.

Not bad IMO.

Looking forward to using it in a few days.


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Aug 11, 2014 10:56 as a reply to  @ CorruptedPhotographer's post |  #12

I have no evidence to back this up, but theoretically, I know the Canon codecs do reduce the image quality due to downsampling (vs. RAW), therefore I don't think you'd see much image degradation if you used a variable ND filter for video only. You may see less sharpness/contrast if used for photo. I think a variable ND filter is the best and most logical answer for video unless image quality is of utmost importance as it allows for quick adjustments vs. changing filters. Be forewarned if the lens rotates during focusing, this will pose a problem though, if you need to change focus during a shot.


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Aug 11, 2014 11:32 |  #13

Thanks evv


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Aug 11, 2014 12:06 |  #14

A good first step is a circular polariser..... that can knock the light down a little and cut through some of the 'fug' of light.... usually then we think about an ND


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