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Jul 22, 2014 08:21 |  #1

I remember in my Nikon days auto ISO worked better and more completely than it did on Canon.

I know in last firmware update on my 1Dx they improved it. I still don't fully know how to set it. But however it's set it appears as if when I'm in AV, and select auto ISO, it will not let my shutter drop below 1/500 or possibly 1/650th, not sure, and adjust the ISO accordingly.

While I've never liked high ISO on any of my bodies, I guess it's better than my not noticing a too slow shutter speed and winding up with motion blur.

Agree?

And kindly explain, and please dumb it down, how to set the choices for shutter speed and anything else affected by choosing auto ISO on my 1Dx and 5D3 and if they are they same or different.
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Jul 22, 2014 08:26 |  #2

I tried Auto ISO on my 5DIII a few times. I'd use it a lot more if you could use Exposure Compensation at the same time; I always use +1/3 or more EC... with both my 40D and 5DIII; the exposure is always a bit too dark at '0'.

When shooting hummingbirds I like a certain shutterspeed for wing blur, and a certain aperture for just the right DoF. Auto ISO would be perfect for that situation (because of changing light) if I could use EC.


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Jul 22, 2014 08:28 |  #3

I almost never use Auto ISO for stills on my 70D. I only put it on when my wife uses the camera, as the exposure triangle is still a baffling mystery to her :D

However, in movie mode it is quite useful.


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Jul 22, 2014 08:34 |  #4

Canon has an excellent article on the feature at http://www.learn.usa.c​anon.com …es/2012/eos_Aut​oISO.shtml (external link). Note it is 4 pages long.




  
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Jul 22, 2014 08:36 |  #5

And specific to the 5DIII go to http://cpn.canon-europe.com …ion/tipsandtric​ks/3284.do (external link)




  
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Jul 22, 2014 08:39 |  #6

I usually use auto ISO when I'm in TV mode with moving subjects and not consistant lightning, those are moments when speed is important and is allows me quite often to avoid to put by default an higher ISO in order to be sure that exposure will be OK.

When I have time or when there are no lightning issues, I set it manually.


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Jul 22, 2014 08:54 |  #7

It is ridiculous that it doesn't use exposure compensation with auto ISO. Canon must have a very weak internal QA process to allow lame crap like that through.




  
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Jul 22, 2014 09:03 |  #8

Auto ISO doesn't allow Exp Comp? I'm pretty sure it does on the 5DIII

I just shot an outdoor event where half the people were in open sunlight and half were in shade. I bounced back and forth between -2/3rds and +2/3rds in AV mode using Auto ISO. Exposure came out as expected.



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Jul 22, 2014 09:07 |  #9

Reiep wrote in post #17048087 (external link)
I usually use auto ISO when I'm in TV mode with moving subjects and not consistant lightning, those are moments when speed is important and is allows me quite often to avoid to put by default an higher ISO in order to be sure that exposure will be OK.

When I have time or when there are no lightning issues, I set it manually.

same for me. shooting football when half of the field is bright and the other half is in the shade due the sun hitting the stadium at such angle.


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Jul 22, 2014 09:07 |  #10

nighthawk82 wrote in post #17048058 (external link)
I almost never use Auto ISO for stills on my 70D. I only put it on when my wife uses the camera, as the exposure triangle is still a baffling mystery to her :D

Send the wife to http://www.canonoutsid​eofauto.ca/play/ (external link).




  
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Jul 22, 2014 09:11 |  #11

chris_holtmeier wrote in post #17048126 (external link)
Auto ISO doesn't allow Exp Comp? I'm pretty sure it does on the 5DIII

I just shot an outdoor event where half the people were in open sunlight and half were in shade. I bounced back and forth between -2/3rds and +2/3rds in AV mode using Auto ISO. Exposure came out as expected.

I would certainly hope so. My comment related to a reply above which stated that it did not.




  
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Jul 22, 2014 09:15 |  #12

MDJAK wrote in post #17048039 (external link)
I remember in my Nikon days auto ISO worked better and more completely than it did on Canon.

I know in last firmware update on my 1Dx they improved it. I still don't fully know how to set it. But however it's set it appears as if when I'm in AV, and select auto ISO, it will not let my shutter drop below 1/500 or possibly 1/650th, not sure, and adjust the ISO accordingly.

While I've never liked high ISO on any of my bodies, I guess it's better than my not noticing a too slow shutter speed and winding up with motion blur.

Agree?

And kindly explain, and please dumb it down, how to set the choices for shutter speed and anything else affected by choosing auto ISO on my 1Dx and 5D3 and if they are they same or different.
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Actual Auto ISO images.

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Camera Maker: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 60D
Lens: EF-S18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Image Date: 2013-02-08 17:16:08 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 18.0mm
Aperture: f/3.5
Exposure Time: 0.025 s (1/40)
ISO equiv: 640
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: program (Auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB


IMAGE: http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r601/kevinlillard/07222014a/20130302a0864_zps71e6990a.jpg

Camera Maker: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 60D
Lens: 70-200mm
Image Date: 2013-03-02
Focal Length: 200.0mm
Focus Distance: 6.0200000032782555m
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0040 s (1/250)
ISO equiv: 3200
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Partial
Exposure: program (Auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Color Space: sRGB

IMAGE: http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/r601/kevinlillard/07222014a/20130309c0114_zps913810f8.jpg

Camera Maker: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 60D
Lens: EF-S18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS
Image Date: 2013-03-09 14:18:33 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 100.0mm
Aperture: f/5.6
Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125)
ISO equiv: 5000
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: program (Auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB


When faced with the task of gathering indoor available light images, the camera was set for Auto ISO and Program AE auto exposure. Each time, the camera selected the correct exposure and the photographer was freed to concentrate on framing instead of settings. All of these sample images used only available light. Flash was not needed . Thanks to automated exposure settings and image stabilization, a "slow" lens was usable at two events.

There was no drama or fear of lack of control. Rather than overthinking the situation, I let the camera handle exposure control and took pictures.

The only processing needed was the use of noise reduction



  
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Jul 22, 2014 09:16 |  #13

day to day shooting, almost always using it. Usually in AV mode, unless I really need high shutter speed past 1/250, then I will go in TV mode.


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Jul 22, 2014 09:17 |  #14

chris_holtmeier wrote in post #17048126 (external link)
Auto ISO doesn't allow Exp Comp? I'm pretty sure it does on the 5DIII

I just shot an outdoor event where half the people were in open sunlight and half were in shade. I bounced back and forth between -2/3rds and +2/3rds in AV mode using Auto ISO. Exposure came out as expected.

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I would certainly hope so. My comment related to a reply above which stated that it did not.

Sorry, I was speaking of Auto ISO in Manual mode, not Av or Tv. Unless there's updated firmware I don't have, I can't adjust EC in Manual mode with Auto ISO.


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Jul 22, 2014 09:19 |  #15

[QUOTE=John from PA;17048135][QUOTE=nig​hthawk82;17048058]I almost never use Auto ISO for stills on my 70D. I only put it on when my wife uses the camera, as the exposure triangle is still a baffling mystery to her :D

That is a very good site interactive demo! Thanks!


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