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Jul 23, 2014 14:02 |  #1

I think that both D800 and 5D MKIII are phenomenal cameras. I have been on several photo trips where people either had a MKIII or D800 and everybody was super happy. Those with D800 were the converts from Canon and it was understandable as these guys were solely interested in landscapes. Higher resolution and DR is where Nikon was very strong.

D810 is a certain step forward and again I see a lot of friends and professional landscape photographers excited about the new toy....:-)

What do you think Canon is going to do in this space?


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Jul 23, 2014 14:18 |  #2

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What do you think Canon is going to do in this space?

Put up a "for rent" sign.


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Jul 23, 2014 14:31 |  #3

7dmk2 long overdue! both 5dmk3 and 1dx still haven't really reached its life cycle yet.

In other words....Canon has nada!!!

A friend of mine has been playing with a new D810 and he finds ISO 12800 cleaner than his 5dmk3. This is what he's found even without great efforts in pushing the limits of that camera body.

We all know Canon is lagging behind in Body technology. With their strong market share they probably dont see a point in surpassing nikon's advances. Canon hasn't even been meeting nikon's in IQ performance laterally. Canon's been struggling for years.....

I have too much invested in lenses to jump to nikon. Photography is simply not based on gear....... shoot away and be happy :)


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Jul 23, 2014 14:35 |  #4

I actually think that the biggest competition for Canon is not Nikon, it is mirrorless:-)


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Jul 23, 2014 14:45 |  #5

The D810 seems like a considerably good upgrade by nikon. A lot of fine details seem to be plugged in.

That camera seems maxed out right about now. In terms of features and performance, I cant see a considerably better product.


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Jul 23, 2014 14:57 |  #6

Look what I found: http://www.digitalcame​raworld.com …parison-full-frame-dslrs/ (external link)


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Jul 23, 2014 15:00 |  #7

Bodies or sensor development, especially at the high end I see nothing innovative coming in the near future from Canon. Maybe I'm wrong but I really think they are concentrating on the low priced entry level market and seeing where the mirrorless market is headed.

Wouldn't it be something though if Canon released a high end mirrorless sensor in a 1D type body? Knowing Canon though it would likely signal the end of the EF mount and make the consumer buy all new glass again. History repeats itself so they say.

I know those statements are what ifs but you never really know how far off the beaten path large corporations think sometimes.


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Jul 23, 2014 16:00 as a reply to  @ Thorrulz's post |  #8

I hope that canon put for the 6D and the 5D3 a pop-up flash like the Nikons D600 and D800


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Jul 23, 2014 16:39 |  #9

AlanU wrote in post #17051245 (external link)
they probably dont see a point in surpassing nikon's advances. Canon hasn't even been meeting nikon's in IQ performance laterally. Canon's been struggling for years.....

In some areas. Not skin tones. Those are Nikon's struggle.




  
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Jul 23, 2014 17:07 |  #10

Hrm,

Maybe I just can't see a difference. When I look at oustanding images, I can't tell if it was Nikon or Canon. The only thing I can often gauge is focal length and/or aperture in some cases, and maybe at least if there's a lot of ISO involved or not. But beyond that, I can't tell a Nikon made image from a Canon made image, assuming it's a good image and ready to be printed.

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Jul 23, 2014 17:12 |  #11

I'm in the market for a new body, the Sony A77II or a high end Nikon (800 etc) are looking high on my list. I don't want to jump ship fully though, So I'd need a nice zoom for the body..

I'm waiting until Canon launch this 7D2 when ever that is... gives me time to save extra too.


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Jul 23, 2014 17:13 |  #12

The 5D3 does quite well, with even JPGs out of the camera. I love the idea of even a cleaner, higher resolution, no AA filter FF camera!

Here is a completely untouched OOC JPG on the 5D3 at 12800. It's not that shabby, and it's a shame Canon waited so long to upgrade the JPG engine in their cameras.

(the lack of sharpness is due to the Sigma 50 needing to be MFAd on this body, i think, and I might have been near MFD).

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Jul 23, 2014 17:29 |  #13

MalVeauX wrote in post #17051601 (external link)
Hrm,

Maybe I just can't see a difference. When I look at oustanding images, I can't tell if it was Nikon or Canon. The only thing I can often gauge is focal length and/or aperture in some cases, and maybe at least if there's a lot of ISO involved or not. But beyond that, I can't tell a Nikon made image from a Canon made image, assuming it's a good image and ready to be printed.

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+1. Unless the difference becomes considerable enough that clients can tell the difference, I don't care what Canon, Nikon, or Sony do. That day is FAR down the road (if ever), because I can't tell now. How many of you can truly tell with no exif if a great picture was made using a D810, a 20D, or a Sigma body (yes, they make those)? The day clients start paying for the brand of the camera and not the skill of the photographer is the day I leave the business.


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Jul 23, 2014 18:32 |  #14

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I cant see a considerably better product.

Curved sensors.


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Jul 23, 2014 19:15 |  #15

TS; I think you've got it backwards, to me the d810 seems more like a response to the 5D3... the D800 is a great camera, but it was lacking compared to the 5D3 for a lot of shooters in a few ways, all where remedied by the D810, for example;

-5D has more AF modes than the D800 and has been reviewed to track better and clear the buffer faster, now the D810 has similar modes and results
-5D has 6fps, D800 only had 4fps, D810 has 5fps
-5D has better high ISO performance, D810 is now much closer (from what I've read, but in my experience 5Diii definitely has better high ISO performance than the D800)
-5D has higher resolution screen than the D800, D810 now ups the resolution
-Video improvements in D810, it's no secret that Canon has been killing Nikon for video, D810 makes strides to close that gap

To me it seems that Nikon recognized that they were losing the interest of the sports, wildlife and video shooters and the D810 is an attempt (and a solid one) to get that crowd interested in their system again.

In the end though... why does it matter? The 5Diii is an amazing camera, it's no less amazing just because another camera came out from another manufacturer.


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