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Jul 23, 2014 14:59 |  #1

Hey guys,

I have a portrait imported into LR4, no adjustments or anything yet. I right click on it, and hit "Edit in Photoshop CS5". I do all my editing there such as skin retouching, blemish removal, etc etc. I hit save and the TIF file shows up in LR automatically, great. In LR, I do some edits on that TIF file such as teeth whitening (I find it easier to do in LR).

Now the image looks finished. Then I remember I forgot to edit a small pimple in photoshop so I right click on the TIF file and hit "Edit in Photoshop" then "Edit Original". I remove the pimple and hit save. I go back into LR, and the TIF file is updated and I can see the last pimple was removed.

However, all of my LR adjustments have been deleted. Everytime I go back into PS and save, any LR adjustments I made onto the TIF file is deleted.

How do I stop LR from deleted adjustments?


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Jul 23, 2014 15:30 |  #2

Well, that's not a workflow that I do, but there must be an option to "Edit Original" that you are missing, since the Original would be the tiff file before making the add-on LR adjustments!


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Jul 23, 2014 15:39 |  #3

I found the solution! I have to go into Preferences --> "Go to Catalog Settings" --> Check box for "Automatically write changes to XMP".

With that checked, I can easily go back and forth between LR and PS without any adjustments being deleted.


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Jul 23, 2014 15:47 |  #4

Or, when you do the LR adjustments to the tiff and right click/Edit in Photoshop, look at the options and choose "Edit a copy with Lightroom adjustments"...LR will create a new tiff that you can then save with the new PS adjustments. You'll have three "copies", yes, but they will be three different versions...again, it's not a workflow I myself follow since I'm not much in the practice of resorting to Photoshop!


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Jul 23, 2014 15:53 |  #5

tonylong wrote in post #17051464 (external link)
Or, when you do the LR adjustments to the tiff and right click/Edit in Photoshop, look at the options and choose "Edit a copy with Lightroom adjustments"...LR will create a new tiff that you can then save with the new PS adjustments. You'll have three "copies", yes, but they will be three different versions...again, it's not a workflow I myself follow since I'm not much in the practice of resorting to Photoshop!

Ah, I know what you mean. But instead of doing that, I've been creating a "virtual copy" of the original image and applied the brushes/adjustments to that. Whenever the TIFF file's adjustments gets deleted, I would just synchronize the edits from that "virtual copy" onto the TIFF. Everytime I save changes to the TIFF file from PS, I'd have to sync the adjustments again.

Now, I fixed it and I don't have to do the extra steps! :D :D :D


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Jul 23, 2014 16:03 |  #6

Well, good!


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Jul 23, 2014 19:23 |  #7

I normally use .PSD's not TIFF's when I round trip to PS. I have never had any problems with going back to PS again. As long as I use Edit Original file (the bottom option) the image auto updates both the "original" and VC's. Of course you have to use save not save as in PS to maintain the link. I often have several VC's for different print sizes, or a mono conversion (I perfer to do mono conversions in LR, and for some tricky occasions I have actually round tripped to PS to fix the colour version before converting to mono). I do not ever save .xmp files. I'm using LR4.4.

There are three options for opening existing RGB files. Open a copy, which opens a new version of the file, if the file has layers then the new file maintains those layers. If you chose copy with "LR Edits" then a new file is created, and you simply get a new background layer. In both of these situations, if the original file was from a RAW file you would get a file name in the format "Original filename-XXX-YYY.psd (or tiff) where XXX is the first 3 digit number that gets added when you create a file and the YYY is the second application of that numerical sequence. In both these cases the link to the original RGB file is broken, although it will appeare stacked with the original files.

Choosing the last option, Edit Original, as I said above should simply open the original file. When it is updated it should automatically update. As I use an older version of ACR I have to have LR render all of my RAW's when I open them in PS, so I always get to see the new .psd file in LR before PS opens. When I go back to LR it may take a few moments before the preview image updates. On some occasions where I have VC's you have to do something within LR that makes the system update the previews before the PS changes are shown. It may just be that LR is not imidiatley updateing your preview images.

I have recently been playing with some new processing techniques, so have been opening quite a few older images in PS.

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