Okay, not to be crass. How do I light a black or interracial couple with a strobe--specifically a 430EX, using a shoot-thru umbrella? Relatively inexperienced when it comes to photographing black people. Shoot is in 2 hours from now.
Jul 24, 2014 18:53 | #1 Okay, not to be crass. How do I light a black or interracial couple with a strobe--specifically a 430EX, using a shoot-thru umbrella? Relatively inexperienced when it comes to photographing black people. Shoot is in 2 hours from now. Camera gear: Canon 5D Mark IV | Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II | Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II | Lights: Elinchrom Ranger RX Speed AS
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Jul 24, 2014 19:46 | #2 Serious question. Camera gear: Canon 5D Mark IV | Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II | Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II | Lights: Elinchrom Ranger RX Speed AS
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JarvisCreativeStudios Goldmember More info | Jul 24, 2014 19:47 | #3 Probably should've researched it before you had a shoot in two hours. Expose to the skin tones, like with everyone else. WEBSITE
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CanonCameraFan Goldmember 1,694 posts Likes: 142 Joined Sep 2011 Location: Annapolis Maryland More info | Jul 24, 2014 19:51 | #4 I would think same as anyone else, but if very dark skin tone, then plus 1/2 to 2/3 stop from a Light Meter reading. Post process should be able to adjust any further. EOS 7D w/BG-E7 (3), 550EX (3), 430EX II, Vivitar 285HV, Opteka 6.5mm/3.5, Canon EF-S 10-18/4.5-5.6 IS STM, Canon EF-S 24/2.8 STM, Canon EF 40/2.8 STM, Canon EF 100mm/2.0 USM, Canon EF 70-300mm/4-5.6 L IS USM, Canon 77mm 500D Macro, Tamrac 614 Bag & 787 Backpack, Crumpler 8 MDH, 7 MDH, 6 MDH
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someone0 Senior Member 436 posts Likes: 12 Joined Jul 2014 More info | Jul 24, 2014 20:24 | #5 CanonCameraFan wrote in post #17054188 I would think same as anyone else, but if very dark skin tone, then plus 1/2 to 2/3 stop from a Light Meter reading. Post process should be able to adjust any further. IDK, I'm not a pro but isn't normally if you are to shoot in the snow, you would over expose by about 2 stops. Shooting dark skin subject I would have thought it goes the other way. That said, if you use a light meter, wouldn't that solves your problem? Another thing is, I think dark skin subject when lit properly, it show the dimention very well. Meaning having at least a few light sources to create both hard and soft light. The soft light would make a fill-in, while hard light create dramatic shadow.
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Jul 24, 2014 20:31 | #6 quadwing wrote in post #17054087 Okay, not to be crass. How do I light a black or interracial couple with a strobe--specifically a 430EX, using a shoot-thru umbrella? Relatively inexperienced when it comes to photographing black people. Shoot is in 2 hours from now. From actual experience at real events, no differently than anyone else. As demonstrated here, the same setup worked for people of different colors side by side. A correct exposure for human subjects is correct regardless of race. No reason to overthink something and create a problem where non exists.
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Please don't think I'm being derogatory or discriminatory whatsoever. I've never been able to overcome lighting issues when it came to mixing interracial couples. I only have one light, however, so that may be the root of my problem. Camera gear: Canon 5D Mark IV | Canon 24-70mm f/2.8L II | Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L II | Lights: Elinchrom Ranger RX Speed AS
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bseitz234 Senior Member More info | Jul 24, 2014 21:03 | #8 quadwing wrote in post #17054287 I only have one light, however, so that may be the root of my problem. No, that probably doesn't help...
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Scatterbrained Cream of the Crop 8,511 posts Gallery: 267 photos Best ofs: 12 Likes: 4607 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Yomitan, Okinawa, Japan More info | Jul 24, 2014 21:09 | #9 Get a light meter. Set your light up using the incident reading. Go to town. VanillaImaging.com
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nyne7lac Member 42 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2011 More info | Jul 24, 2014 21:27 | #10 This takes me back to my engagement photoshoot. It was a fairly bright and hot day, my photographer was very nice but she kept saying "Gosh, black people suck up all the light" and she kept repositioning us or having her husband move the reflector. t3i | 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 | 50mm f/1.8 | YN-565EX | YN-560II
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FJLOVE Cream of the Crop 20,883 posts Likes: 82 Joined Nov 2006 Location: barrie ont. ca More info | Jul 24, 2014 21:34 | #11 nyne7lac wrote in post #17054386 This takes me back to my engagement photoshoot. It was a fairly bright and hot day, my photographer was very nice but she kept saying "Gosh, black people suck up all the light" and she kept repositioning us or having her husband move the reflector. That was about 5 years ago. Even today on a hot day I'll look at my wife and say "we must be sucking up all the light"
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sandpiper Cream of the Crop More info | Jul 24, 2014 21:38 | #12 bseitz234 wrote in post #17054323 No, that probably doesn't help... If you've got two different values you need properly exposed, just make sure you've got enough data in both your highlights and your shadows, and then you should be able to do any tweaking you need to in post. You could spot meter on each person, my guess is if you pick a value that gives you +2/3 to +1 stop on the lighter skinned person, you won't be more than a stop underexposed on the darker skinned person. I am sorry but that makes no sense. The correct exposure for the light skinned person is the same as for the dark skinned person. If you were to spot meter each and set those as exposures for two individual shots they would both look the same tone. The darker person would be very overexposed and the lighter person a little underexposed.
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CRCchemist Senior Member 961 posts Likes: 19 Joined Apr 2014 More info | Jul 24, 2014 22:08 | #13 quadwing wrote in post #17054287 Please don't think I'm being derogatory or discriminatory whatsoever. I've never been able to overcome lighting issues when it came to mixing interracial couples. I only have one light, however, so that may be the root of my problem. No, the single light isn't the problem. You are missing a light meter. That will give you a precise correct exposure, no matter what the subject is. They are under $100. Make sure you buy one after this so you never have this problem in the future.
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CRCchemist Senior Member 961 posts Likes: 19 Joined Apr 2014 More info | Jul 24, 2014 22:10 | #14 nyne7lac wrote in post #17054386 This takes me back to my engagement photoshoot. It was a fairly bright and hot day, my photographer was very nice but she kept saying "Gosh, black people suck up all the light" and she kept repositioning us or having her husband move the reflector. That was about 5 years ago. Even today on a hot day I'll look at my wife and say "we must be sucking up all the light" Hahaha. I love that story. I'm going to start saying that from now on too!!!
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Firehouse Senior Member More info | Jul 24, 2014 22:10 | #15 quadwing wrote in post #17054087 Okay, not to be crass. How do I light a black or interracial couple with a strobe--specifically a 430EX, using a shoot-thru umbrella? Relatively inexperienced when it comes to photographing black people. Shoot is in 2 hours from now. I am at a loss for words... Rich
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