Canon 1DX - Images With Pinkish Tones?

1) Your picture style of standard is causing the contrast to be a bit higher than it should be, and it is saturating the red channel a bit too much IMO, try switching to neutral, the colors will look more normal, and you can add saturation and contrast to taste during post.

2) The white balance, from what I can tell on my calibrated monitor, isn't all that far off. I think the greenery might have thrown off the metering a bit perhaps, but I didn't really have to warm it up much past what it was set at in Auto.

3) I think the skin tones are going to stand out simply due to gray suits and the scenery, at least in that pic.

My thoughts anyways, the biggest change was going to neutral instead of standard for the picture style. I would make a custom one that used neutral as a base, add 2 to sharpening and 1 to saturation. That is what I did below from before (your raw) to the after (neutral picture style, add 2 to sharpening, 1 to saturation). I did also slide the white balance to 4500K. Without shooting a custom wb before the shoot, I am not sure you will get great results with Auto WB. They may be close, but will probably still require tweaking during post.

One more minor catch, you shot this at f2.5, per the exif, and with such a long line line of gentlmen, I would have probably moved up to f4 personally. Unless you have them perfectly lined up parallel to the sensor, you aren't always going to guarantee they are all in focus (like the gentleman to the far right on the full image). Just a minor thing though, hind sight is always 20/20.

Michelle Brooks Photography wrote in post #17059889
I always (always!) shoot RAW.

I tried one of those when I first started shooting 4 years ago- embarrassed to say i couldn't figure the darn thing out (it was a Passport Color checker I think). I have tried doing CWB in the past (tho not recently) & just can't find a comfortable way to work it into the hectic wedding flow!

All you really need to do, I believe is to put the card out in each area you plan on shooting, and shoot the card, and keep those pics. You can then get the WB from each card later and apply it to all photos in that "scene". Or try to shoot that card throughout the day when shooting in a new lighting condition, and use that card for those shots during post. However, that is a guess, as I typically don't run around between different lighting conditions in one shoot.

Submariner wrote in post #17060944
I use the grey card for studio and home shoot portraits to give me a custom white balance reference. I think it is 18% grey? ( maybe 14% ) .
It works as home shoots can mean you hit unusual colours, like one house has curtains that bleed a bit of an orange tinge.

Your problem could be the changeing enviroment at a wedding. And the pace things happen in, Eg at my neices wedding I refused the job ( politically too risky if I messed up lol! )
But I did take some pics obviously, the problem I see you have is in the number of scenes , bride arriving, in church, signing the registrar book, bride walking out, all the outside shots, going away in the Rolls, the reception inside and outside.

I did ask my wife to hold the grey card , but on the 3rd time she refused saying she looked like an idiot.
So the only way it would work for you is if you have an assistant/ 2nd shooter to help you?

I do have a gray card, another one of those things I bought when I began & never used. Might be something I need to incorporate, at least for those group shots. I always ahve a 2nd shooter so they could do that of holding it & looking like an idiot lol. I just wish I could understand why this is just now becoming a problem for me in these last 2 weddings which obviously have different lighting, background, etc factors.

could it be that you have a skylight filter fitted to the lens?

If you are shooting RAW, you can of course override the WB setting and cool off those pink tones.

To avoid "Auto WB" getting a bot fooled at times, as mentioned, set a custom WB in camera.

Me, I have a hard time doing that when I'm shooting in an active situation, so I do the former most cases (shoot AWB and correct RAW files in post)

Without seeing the results of the sessions as a whole, I suspect that you do not have a camera specific problem, but instead had some location specific Auto white balance challenges.

Michelle: I sent you a PM.

Paul

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17060964
1) Your picture style of standard is causing the contrast to be a bit higher than it should be, and it is saturating the red channel a bit too much IMO, try switching to neutral, the colors will look more normal, and you can add saturation and contrast to taste during post.

2) The white balance, from what I can tell on my calibrated monitor, isn't all that far off. I think the greenery might have thrown off the metering a bit perhaps, but I didn't really have to warm it up much past what it was set at in Auto.

3) I think the skin tones are going to stand out simply due to gray suits and the scenery, at least in that pic.

My thoughts anyways, the biggest change was going to neutral instead of standard for the picture style. I would make a custom one that used neutral as a base, add 2 to sharpening and 1 to saturation. That is what I did below from before (your raw) to the after (neutral picture style, add 2 to sharpening, 1 to saturation). I did also slide the white balance to 4500K. Without shooting a custom wb before the shoot, I am not sure you will get great results with Auto WB. They may be close, but will probably still require tweaking during post.

One more minor catch, you shot this at f2.5, per the exif, and with such a long line line of gentlmen, I would have probably moved up to f4 personally. Unless you have them perfectly lined up parallel to the sensor, you aren't always going to guarantee they are all in focus (like the gentleman to the far right on the full image). Just a minor thing though, hind sight is always 20/20.

You know what?? I had changed my picture style to neutral based on the advice of a guy who works at a printing lab, about 1.5 years ago, then a little while back another frined (a photographer) told me that the only thing that affects is the jpeg preview, not the RAW file, so I switched back. You're telling me it *does* affect the RAW file?

You are absolutely correct about the f-stop

Thanks I will adjust my settings in picture style back & see if I notice a diff.

soccersnaps wrote in post #17061962
could it be that you have a skylight filter fitted to the lens?

No, I didn't.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17061988
If you are shooting RAW, you can of course override the WB setting and cool off those pink tones.

To avoid "Auto WB" getting a bot fooled at times, as mentioned, set a custom WB in camera.

Me, I have a hard time doing that when I'm shooting in an active situation, so I do the former most cases (shoot AWB and correct RAW files in post)

Without seeing the results of the sessions as a whole, I suspect that you do not have a camera specific problem, but instead had some location specific Auto white balance challenges.

Sound reasoning Thanks!

Michelle Brooks Photography wrote in post #17062542
You know what?? I had changed my picture style to neutral based on the advice of a guy who works at a printing lab, about 1.5 years ago, then a little while back another frined (a photographer) told me that the only thing that affects is the jpeg preview, not the RAW file, so I switched back. You're telling me it *does* affect the RAW file?

You are absolutely correct about the f-stop

Thanks I will adjust my settings in picture style back & see if I notice a diff.

It depends. What do you use for raw conversion to JPG?

Michelle Brooks Photography wrote in post #17062542
You know what?? I had changed my picture style to neutral based on the advice of a guy who works at a printing lab, about 1.5 years ago, then a little while back another frined (a photographer) told me that the only thing that affects is the jpeg preview, not the RAW file, so I switched back. You're telling me it *does* affect the RAW file?

You are absolutely correct about the f-stop

Thanks I will adjust my settings in picture style back & see if I notice a diff.

It doesn't affect the raw file directly, however some (most?) raw editors will read the metadata and apply it to the preview that you get as a starting point. DPP will apply picture styles accurately, but other editors will apply an approximation, as they aren't privy to the exact recipe that Canon use for each one. It isn't baked in though and can be altered simply by switching the picture style in the raw editor (certainly in DPP, other editors may be different).

Sure, answer it before I got an answer back!

Good response, most likely better than what i would have come back with.

Like I said before, I would create a custom picture style, use neutral as the base, take the saturation up just one notch (or 2 for extra flavoring), and push the sharpness up a couple of notches. This should provide a more realistic, yet slightly enhanced result in the camera JPGs, but also prime the raws for a great starting point. If you want to really get serious, check out Canon's style editor and all the other styles you can download, then upload to your camera for use during a shoot.

http://www.canon.co.jp …turestyle/file/​index.html
http://www.canon.co.jp …tyle/style/cust​omize.html
http://www.canon.co.jp …restyle/editor/​index.html

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17062554
It depends. What do you use for raw conversion to JPG?

Photoshop.

Michelle Brooks Photography wrote in post #17064053
Photoshop.

Check the color working space, also try to change the WB in adjustment settings, you have big control with RAW, i don't think we all or many here don't have problem with 1DX RAW for portraits and you have issues.

I can't help much unless i shoot portraits in same conditions you did and then look at the shots if i get same problem as yours, but for now you just keep watching this threads posts and hope you can find the solutions here or by yourself.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17062571
Sure, answer it before I got an answer back!

Good response, most likely better than what i would have come back with.

Like I said before, I would create a custom picture style, use neutral as the base, take the saturation up just one notch (or 2 for extra flavoring), and push the sharpness up a couple of notches. This should provide a more realistic, yet slightly enhanced result in the camera JPGs, but also prime the raws for a great starting point. If you want to really get serious, check out Canon's style editor and all the other styles you can download, then upload to your camera for use during a shoot.

http://www.canon.co.jp …turestyle/file/​index.html
http://www.canon.co.jp …tyle/style/cust​omize.html
http://www.canon.co.jp …restyle/editor/​index.html

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