EOS M for Fashion and portraits

So just a basic question.

I shoot a 6D with 24-105L, 85mm, and 70-200 2.8L II

I want a 35mm and a 50mm (stupidly sold my 50mm)

I am shooting portraits and fashion. I'm doing shoots with people and while they are moving, it isn't action or sports.

I've heard that the focus system on them is pretty bad compared to a mirrored DSLR but I've never used one.

For the price they are selling the 22mm package for it has me intrigued. The 22mm is the 35mm equivalent on FF.

I'm thinking of picking one up to rock in the situation I would use a 35 for portraits, in addition would it be fine to use in studio with off camera flash and strobes?

I see it has the hotshoe on top but didn't know if I could use all that stuff with it.

I have my 6D and am satisfied, but it would be cheaper to pick up the EOS M with 22mm than a 35mm lens.

What do you think? Is that a dumb idea? Great idea? Feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Heya,

It will work with your off camera strobes. My `M works fine with all my equipment, that's a big benefit, because it just shares it all just like any other Canon SLR.

It's focus system is slow. Very slow. It can hunt around depending on what focus method you use. A moving target is actually pretty difficult. I do daily portrait use of a moving kid, and it's difficult to lock on every time, where my viewfinder mirror based SLR has no trouble locking motion. The `M is definitely not great for anything moving. It will frustrate you, if your models are constantly moving. For controlled portraits where your model doesn't move for a moment, you'll do great with the `M. But if they're moving and you're just capturing as they move, the `M will be a really poor choice most likely.

Get a 35mm lens. The 35mm F2 IS is a better lens than the 22mm F2 `M lens anyways. And your 6D will simply do a better job of what you're doing.

Very best,

Ok thanks, I'll just pick up the lens, if it's the 35 I'd rather go sigma or L, so I'll just save

giballi wrote in post #17064383
So just a basic question.

I shoot a 6D with 24-105L, 85mm, and 70-200 2.8L II

I want a 35mm and a 50mm (stupidly sold my 50mm)

I am shooting portraits and fashion. I'm doing shoots with people and while they are moving, it isn't action or sports.

I've heard that the focus system on them is pretty bad compared to a mirrored DSLR but I've never used one.

For the price they are selling the 22mm package for it has me intrigued. The 22mm is the 35mm equivalent on FF.

I'm thinking of picking one up to rock in the situation I would use a 35 for portraits, in addition would it be fine to use in studio with off camera flash and strobes?

I see it has the hotshoe on top but didn't know if I could use all that stuff with it.

I have my 6D and am satisfied, but it would be cheaper to pick up the EOS M with 22mm than a 35mm lens.

What do you think? Is that a dumb idea? Great idea? Feedback would be greatly appreciated.

probably a good idea depending on the price

Does great for portraits and work with flash.

The focus is slow, but not as slow as people say it is. I've shot post hardcore and metal/deathcore bands that move a hell of a lot more than models do. The M focused fine and in dim/crappy/changing all the time light.

Check out my flickr in the link below, 90% of everything in there was shot on my M.(except the film stuff)

https://www.flickr.com​/photos/alexcorona/

If you have a studio setup where ambient light is low, the M may have trouble auto focusing. And I don't think you can disable exposure simulation either, which sucks.

Why not get the 40mm and save some cash?

I wouldn't do anything but general walk around photography with my M. Thats just me though

frugivore wrote in post #17066185
If you have a studio setup where ambient light is low, the M may have trouble auto focusing. And I don't think you can disable exposure simulation either, which sucks.

Focuses just fine in low night, for extremely dim light it has a assist beam built in. You can disable exp simulation via magic lantern. There's supposed to be a way to it on the OEM firmware because it has an icon, but I never figured out how to do it.

maverick75 wrote in post #17066598
Focuses just fine in low night, for extremely dim light it has a assist beam built in. You can disable exp simulation via magic lantern. There's supposed to be a way to it on the OEM firmware because it has an icon, but I never figured out how to do it.

The AF assist light illuminates only the center of the frame. I often focus outside the center. And my big hands usually block the assist light anyhow.

Doesn't ML for the M still suffer from the shutter bug or has that been fixed?

I shot models with it all the time. Natural light & studio strobe & on camera flash.
Focus isnt fast but it gives you time to look at what your shooting instead of just clicking the shutter.

Heya,

The `M does not focus quickly, nor track quickly on moving subjects in low light. From far away, sure, it's better. But at close range, on a moving subject, it will hunt around to no end. Having a 0.5s time between when you focused and exposed is a huge deal for a facial expression.

The `M is good in light on relatively static subjects. It will do fine there. I use it often with flash and it's fine for most portrait use. But on a moving subject, like my 8 month old, it just can't keep up at closer ranges.

Very best,

frugivore wrote in post #17066638
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Doesn't ML for the M still suffer from the shutter bug or has that been fixed?

I tried loading it on my M a few weeks ago and it certainly wasn't fixed.

giballi wrote in post #17064383
So just a basic question.

I shoot a 6D with 24-105L, 85mm, and 70-200 2.8L II

I want a 35mm and a 50mm (stupidly sold my 50mm)

I am shooting portraits and fashion. I'm doing shoots with people and while they are moving, it isn't action or sports.

I've heard that the focus system on them is pretty bad compared to a mirrored DSLR but I've never used one.

For the price they are selling the 22mm package for it has me intrigued. The 22mm is the 35mm equivalent on FF.

I'm thinking of picking one up to rock in the situation I would use a 35 for portraits, in addition would it be fine to use in studio with off camera flash and strobes?

I see it has the hotshoe on top but didn't know if I could use all that stuff with it.

I have my 6D and am satisfied, but it would be cheaper to pick up the EOS M with 22mm than a 35mm lens.

What do you think? Is that a dumb idea? Great idea? Feedback would be greatly appreciated.

For me the big drawback to the M is the lack of viewfinder. Once you get used to holding the camera up to your face and composing through the viewfinder, holding it at arms length becomes quite awkward. You could mount an loupe to the rear screen and set the iso/aperture/SS to be controlled from the wheel, but it's going to be cumbersome.

BTW: there is a significant difference in IQ between that generation of APS-C sensors and what you're getting from the 6D. In good light it won't be an issue, but if you really work your images in post, you'll find that the files can't handle the kind of tweaking that the 6D files can. They just aren't going to be as clean.