Big Difference with X-Rite Dual Illuminant Profile

So after years of frustration with all of the camera profiles provided in LR and ACR and the inaccuracy I always felt was there with my camera, I decided to buy an x-rite color checker passport and make my own custom profile. The image below is the same White Balance, same settings all the way through except the image on the left the "Adobe Standard" profile and the image on the right is my new X-Rite profile. Keep in mind, these images have the same settings and this is clearly an inaccuracy with color rendering of the adobe standard profile and my Canon 5D2. The image on the right is color correct when compared the scene. I think this was money well spent!

As a sunset I prefer the left one. I also did a blind taste test and asked my GF which she preferred and it was the left one. I own and use an xrite colour checker passport, but only on things like studio shots where colour accuracy is required. For things like sunsets I think that artistic intent is far more important than colour accuracy.

Dan Marchant wrote in post #17072763
As a sunset I prefer the left one. I also did a blind taste test and asked my GF which she preferred and it was the left one. I own and use an xrite colour checker passport, but only on things like studio shots where colour accuracy is required. For things like sunsets I think that artistic intent is far more important than colour accuracy.

Yes, but I prefer accurate colors first and then artistic afterwards. I have plenty of other ones where the accurate colors are far more preferable. Especially any image with green or blue tones. The adobe standard profile is way out of whack for my 5D2

Canon_Shoe wrote in post #17073885
Yes, but I prefer accurate colors first and then artistic afterwards.

Yup.

Using a profile that gives accurate colours doesn't mean you can't twiddle to get the best colours. But I always found that using an inaccurate profile made it very difficult if you wanted accurate colours.

hollis_f wrote in post #17074930
Yup.

Using a profile that gives accurate colours doesn't mean you can't twiddle to get the best colours. But I always found that using an inaccurate profile made it very difficult if you wanted accurate colours.

Exactly! We did this for my friend's 5D3 as well and his was off but not as much as mine. Color rendering is so overlooked! Shooting RAW can make it difficult to take just a regular "photograph" if your colors are off

Canon_Shoe wrote in post #17075223
Exactly! We did this for my friend's 5D3 as well and his was off but not as much as mine. Color rendering is so overlooked! Shooting RAW can make it difficult to take just a regular "photograph" if your colors are off

Well, you have a number of profiles to choose from, have you tried "Camera Neutral"?

You can find a profile that suits you and make it your "default"!

Canon_Shoe wrote in post #17073885
Yes, but I prefer accurate colors first and then artistic afterwards. I have plenty of other ones where the accurate colors are far more preferable. Especially any image with green or blue tones. The adobe standard profile is way out of whack for my 5D2

I recently invested in the CCPP - after buying a light meter I wanted to profile the dynamic range of my 70D, the CCPP lets me do that as well as giving me the option of accurate colour profiles.
Wish I'd bought it sooner - some of the canned profiles were and still will be useful in certain situations but I was quite amazed at the difference the custom profiles made; both in colours and global contrast. Usually does the heavy lifting of the development process for me.

I've made profiles for flash, daylight, cloudy, tungsten and a dual-illuminant profile; I'll create more for a particular condition if I feel the need.

Compared to many here I guess I'm a novice in the photographic stakes but after adding these two tools I'm starting to feel somewhat more in control; I know I have a good exposure before I even click the shutter, I know I have accurate colours (which I usually want, at least to start with). I'm now free to focus on composition.

tonylong wrote in post #17075918
Well, you have a number of profiles to choose from, have you tried "Camera Neutral"?

You can find a profile that suits you and make it your "default"!

Yep I've tried Camera Neutral and it's even off. It was just plain shocking how different the colors were between profiles at the same WB. We did my friends 5D3 and it was also off but not the drastic amount that mine was