
I notice the date is still moving further down the road...
That's to make it better.
rick_reno Cream of the Crop 44,642 posts Likes: 134 Joined Dec 2010 More info | Aug 11, 2014 19:40 | #46 CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17089804 ![]() I notice the date is still moving further down the road... That's to make it better.
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Aug 11, 2014 20:22 | #47 I bet anything they go crazy. A7rIII | A7III | 12-24 F4 | 16-35 GM | 28-75 2.8 | 100-400 GM | 12mm 2.8 Fisheye | 35mm 2.8 | 85mm 1.8 | 35A | 85A | 200mm L F2 IS | MC-11
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Aug 11, 2014 22:40 | #48 Talley wrote in post #17090140 ![]() I bet anything they go crazy. 7D2 = 1DX but a 24mp crop sensor and limited to 9fps Done. Priced at $2499. Good friend at a shop said if its real it will go for $2500 he is betting. Funny you got $2499 Keith-EOS R 7D MarkII EOS REBEL T2i 18-55,55-250.85 1/8. 100-400L. 10-22 f/3.5-4.5. 24-105mm f/4L IS,70-200 II,RF 24-105
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Aug 11, 2014 23:22 | #49 ![]() sssc wrote in post #17090364 ![]() Good friend at a shop said if its real it will go for $2500 he is betting. Funny you got $2499 ![]() How much if it isn't real? WARNING: I often dispense advice in fields I know little about!
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dinanm3atl Goldmember ![]() 3,123 posts Likes: 109 Joined Feb 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA More info | Aug 11, 2014 23:33 | #50 This is my real gripe here on the delay or extensive testing of the 7D itself. It set a new bar at the time and really what parts need to be improved? Halston - MotorSports Photographer
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howiewu Senior Member ![]() 629 posts Likes: 21 Joined Feb 2011 More info | Aug 12, 2014 06:00 | #51 dinanm3atl wrote in post #17090438 ![]() This is my real gripe here on the delay or extensive testing of the 7D itself. It set a new bar at the time and really what parts need to be improved? Let's be honest, those that really shoot a 7D, what we really want is a better sensor. I don't need/want anything else. If they said "For 1000 dollars we will replace with a new 24mp sensor that is as good(or better) than the Sony/Nikon out there right now." I would send all of mine in right now. GPS and WiFi? Meh. Touch Screen? Meh. Buttons or Mode Dials? Meh. The camera's actual specs outside of the now getting dated sensor is really awesome. Focus system works VERY well in the fast paced motorsports world I work in. I am only lacking, and it isn't that much, in the IQ, Colors and sensor tech. An improved JPEG would be nice. Improved ISO Performance. Etc. FPS? How much more do you need? Is dual slots really needed? Yep, sensor tech is Canon's achilles' heel right now, isn't it? We can use a few improvements here and there, but yes, we want a much better sensor! 5DII, 70D
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howiewu Senior Member ![]() 629 posts Likes: 21 Joined Feb 2011 More info | Aug 12, 2014 06:06 | #52 kfreels wrote in post #17089006 ![]() I guess I need to point out the difference from a "rumor" at CR and a person making guesses. CR doesn't just sit around and make guesses. They have contacts with people inside Canon who may not be directly involved with a particular camera, but who come into regular contact with those who do. And such people in the workplace tend to talk about things they're doing on occasion. When that happens, they pass it on to CR and it becomes a "rumor". CR rates those rumors based on the source's previous history of accuracy. So a CR1 is a rumor from an unfamiliar source or a source without a proven track record of being accuracy. A CR2 is coming from a person who has access to such information and also has a track history of getting it right. Random speculation isn't given a CR value at all. So for example, today there are two posts. Once is about a possible 35+MP camera at Photokina. The other is that the 7DII won't have wifi. The first has no CR value at all. The post states clearly that a source for someone else reported this information. They don't know the source, it wasn't directly given to them by the source, so it wasn't assigned a CR value. The second is a CR2. This "good source" also stated it would have Eos-1 build quality. Then the author states that their opinion is that this may mean that it's a large MP camera. There is a considerable difference between a source and an opinion. Does this mean the source is always right? No. But the quality of the source matters. Reading some of the comments I have flashbacks of debates about scientific topics with people who throw the word "theory" around as if it is the same thing as conjecture or guessing. Everything I came to a conclusion on was based on a mixture of actual rumors and my own guesswork. But let me sort those out here: 7D replacement exists - multiple CR2 source confirmations 7D replacement is an even nicer build quality and more 1D like - multiple CR2 source confirmations 7DII announcement in the next month - multiple CRII source confirmations 24MP improved sensor - multiple CRII source confirmations 10 fps - guess work and a couple CR1s and CR2s that conflict between 9 and 12 fps gps - CR1 wifi - CR1 with conflicting CR2 stating it won't be there and my guess that it's a little late to not have wifi integrated grip - OLD CR2 and CR1 which may have changed over time along with my guesswork with the CR2 mention of a new battery radio control of flash - pure guesswork dual card slots - CR1 and CR2 - different sources 7DII name - up in the air As with anything, the more specific you get, the less accurate you are. But a couple things which have multiple CR2 values from multiple sources all say that a replacement is imminent and that it will have a more 1D like build quality, more MP, and better noise and ISO. I really hope you get paid for this kind of vehement defending. 5DII, 70D
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Aug 12, 2014 08:04 | #53 howiewu wrote in post #17090715 ![]() I really hope you get paid for this kind of vehement defending. Would be nice, wouldn't it? I do feel it necessary to make sure that people understand the difference between what CR posts and just straight up guessing. But I dont' have to write so much. I hate to admit it, but you know how some people like to hear themselves talk? Well I like to read what I write. I'm sure there's a support group for people like me. I am serious....and don't call me Shirley.
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Aug 12, 2014 08:58 | #54 CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17089804 ![]() I notice the date is still moving further down the road... Where did you see that? The latest from CR was Sept 5 which is before the previous of Sept 8. Both were listed as "guesses" though and not as rumors. I haven't seen anything pushing it back to the other side of Sept 8. I am serious....and don't call me Shirley.
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Imagemaster Junior Member 26 posts Joined Jan 2008 More info | Aug 12, 2014 09:04 | #55 dinanm3atl wrote in post #17090438 ![]() This is my real gripe here on the delay or extensive testing of the 7D itself. It set a new bar at the time and really what parts need to be improved? Let's be honest, those that really shoot a 7D, what we really want is a better sensor. I don't need/want anything else. If they said "For 1000 dollars we will replace with a new 24mp sensor that is as good(or better) than the Sony/Nikon out there right now." I would send all of mine in right now. GPS and WiFi? Meh. Touch Screen? Meh. Buttons or Mode Dials? Meh. The camera's actual specs outside of the now getting dated sensor is really awesome. Focus system works VERY well in the fast paced motorsports world I work in. I am only lacking, and it isn't that much, in the IQ, Colors and sensor tech. An improved JPEG would be nice. Improved ISO Performance. Etc. FPS? How much more do you need? Is dual slots really needed? What makes you think everyone wants or needs the same things as you? Many people are unhappy with the AF of the 7D and have to focus on more demanding subjects than large contrasty cars travelling on a horizontal plane in a predetermined direction.
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mccamli Goldmember ![]() More info | Aug 12, 2014 11:01 | #56 Imagemaster wrote in post #17090957 ![]() What makes you think everyone wants or needs the same things as you? Many people are unhappy with the AF of the 7D and have to focus on more demanding subjects than large contrasty cars travelling on a horizontal plane in a predetermined direction. Rumor has it that it will not have WiFi or touch screen, so why the Meh? What is the problem with wanting dual slots? There is nothing wrong with others wanting improved features that you don't want. Well that's quite true. But if all Canon offered was a 24MP sensor with significantly improved noise/banding and high ISO performance it would probably be plenty to entice many current 7D users. Personally I'd love better AF performance but I'd be sorely tempted with a significant sensor upgrade.
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000) ![]() More info | Aug 12, 2014 11:12 | #57 kfreels wrote in post #17090939 ![]() Where did you see that? The latest from CR was Sept 5 which is before the previous of Sept 8. Both were listed as "guesses" though and not as rumors. I haven't seen anything pushing it back to the other side of Sept 8. Sorry, your actually right. I was thinking Photokina was mid August, so when I saw the Sept 5 date I'm think that's after photokina. it is in fact mid Sept. 1DX III Pro Bundle for sale
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Aug 12, 2014 16:31 | #58 CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #17091191 ![]() Sorry, your actually right. I was thinking Photokina was mid August, so when I saw the Sept 5 date I'm think that's after photokina. it is in fact mid Sept. Ah. Freaked me out for a second. Thought I missed something. lol I am serious....and don't call me Shirley.
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Aug 12, 2014 16:51 | #59 So a couple rumors to add - also sourced as CR2.... I am serious....and don't call me Shirley.
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So I'll just come out and say it. $2400 is my personal limit. More than that and I'll just wait for an 80D with the new sensor.[/QUOTE] Price will drop in 6 months. I hope they do something good. I know a bit about LR a drop about PS. I bought all Canon Glass.Kept my T2i through all kinds of new body's. Telling my self that they will do something big to keep up with the others or go far ahead of them. I just play with this stuff as a hobby and i love it. Still got a lot to learn.Dreams 7D mkII Keith-EOS R 7D MarkII EOS REBEL T2i 18-55,55-250.85 1/8. 100-400L. 10-22 f/3.5-4.5. 24-105mm f/4L IS,70-200 II,RF 24-105
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