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Aug 13, 2014 18:48 |  #1

They will go all high school drama on you....

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If any of you follow photo stealers... I cant believe how horrible some of these people are. I was able to pretty much diffuse the situation since I can reply to and report the false reviews. Its just a unnecessary head ach. I will never ever point out a fraud again.

EDIT: I removed my comment on the page because its just not worth it and they still continued to have their friends leave false reviews for me.
Today they also created a fake profile with my name and photo and left rude comments on another photographers page using it. I worked things out with that photographer and we both reported the fake profile and had it deleted. Right now im letting it all go. I will contact some people and decide the best action to take.

Also I still very much stand by the fact that using stock images anywhere near a photography business is misrepresentation and unethical. I have no personal issue with the business other than that is very very wrong.

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Aug 13, 2014 18:52 |  #2

Let me see if I'm following. You pointed out on their page that they're using stock photos to represent themselves and they manufactured phoney negative reviews against you ? Jesus--seriously ?



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Aug 13, 2014 18:54 |  #3

That seems a bit overkill on Michelle C's end. How disgusting.

"please inform me how you would like to proceed"-- I can'e believe they had the nerve to say it that way...as if its a threat.


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Aug 13, 2014 18:56 |  #4

Well leaving a review on their website may not be the best way to go about it. Though something similar just happened with another forum member, but she also had a significant online following to back her up.

DMCA takedown notice would probably fare better. But what's done is done - save all correspondence and keep it on file.

If you're feeling particularly nasty you could submit what you posted to a few photography news sites...


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Aug 13, 2014 18:56 |  #5

Christopher Steven b wrote in post #17094585 (external link)
Let me see if I'm following. You pointed out on their page that they're using stock photos to represent themselves and they manufactured phoney negative reviews against you ? Jesus--seriously ?

Exactly. & They are still using some of the photos.


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Aug 13, 2014 18:57 |  #6

sarahashleyphotos wrote in post #17094579 (external link)
I was able to pretty much diffuse the situation since I can reply to and report the false reviews.

Tell me more about the diffuser you used.

Apart from that, aren't there laws about defamation and libel?


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Aug 13, 2014 18:59 |  #7

Well frankly, that aspect is less concerning to me than the fact that an angry photographer can attempt to savage another's reputation with a few clicks.

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Exactly. & They are still using some of the photos.



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Aug 13, 2014 19:02 |  #8

joeblack2022 wrote in post #17094592 (external link)
Well leaving a review on their website may not be the best way to go about it. Though something similar just happened with another forum member, but she also had a significant online following to back her up.

DMCA takedown notice would probably fare better. But what's done is done - save all correspondence and keep it on file.

If you're feeling particularly nasty you could submit what you posted to a few photography news sites...

Unfortunately on facebook to report copyright infringement it has to be your image.


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Aug 13, 2014 19:03 |  #9

My mind is just kind of blown. It's bad enough you are going after peoples WEDDINGS, a day where they incur a lot of expense and can't easily repeat using stolen images.

But because you were discovered your response is then to create a false review of a service you never used. Not once, but multiple times? Seems like that lady is a pro at filling herself with hate.


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Aug 13, 2014 19:04 |  #10

sarahashleyphotos wrote in post #17094602 (external link)
Unfortunately on facebook to report copyright infringement it has to be your image.

I see, I thought they were your images. I wonder if Shutterstock would pursue?


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Aug 13, 2014 19:04 |  #11

Archibald wrote in post #17094595 (external link)
Tell me more about the diffuser you used.

Apart from that, aren't there laws about defamation and libel?

Like I said on most review websites your can publicly reply to them (I simply said it was a fake review. That I had never worked with or met the person.) and a few have taken them down for review after I had reported them as being fake.


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Aug 13, 2014 19:12 |  #12

joeblack2022 wrote in post #17094610 (external link)
I see, I thought they were your images. I wonder if Shutterstock would pursue?

I had contacted them with no response yet.


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Aug 13, 2014 19:20 as a reply to  @ sarahashleyphotos's post |  #13

...it is quite possible they purchased those images: or maybe even provided those images for stock.

If you are going to accuse someone of fraud publicly: make sure you are sure of your case first. If you are unsure, send them to a site like Stop Stealing Photos and let them do the legwork.


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Aug 13, 2014 19:23 |  #14

banquetbear wrote in post #17094642 (external link)
...it is quite possible they purchased those images: or maybe even provided those images for stock.

If you are going to accuse someone of fraud publicly: make sure you are sure of your case first. If you are unsure, send them to a site like Stop Stealing Photos and let them do the legwork.

Under the rules at shutterstock even if purchased they can not be used to advertise as if they are a product (Meaning photographers cant say they photographed them or imply it). Ill have to find that bit again.

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"PART II
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19. Falsely represent, expressly or by way of reasonable implication, that any Image was created by you or a person other than the copyright holder(s) of that Image."
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Aug 13, 2014 19:27 |  #15

sarahashleyphotos wrote in post #17094649 (external link)
Under the rules at shutterstock even if purchased they can not be used to advertise as if they are a product (Meaning photographers cant say they photographed them or imply it). Ill have to find that bit again.

...if thats the case, report them to shutterstock, and if shutterstock wants to go after her for violating their terms of use, then they can. If they choose to ignore it, thats their choice. But are you sure she didn't take those images and sell them for stock? If your answer is "I don't know", then you shouldn't have called them out before finding out for sure.


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