I am noticing my 17-40L is much sharper than my 70-200L. Is this a normal occurance, maybe because the DOF is shallower and you need a higher shutter speed on a long lens? Or do I just have a bad copy of the 70-200?
shniks Goldmember 1,041 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia More info | Feb 18, 2006 05:02 | #1 I am noticing my 17-40L is much sharper than my 70-200L. Is this a normal occurance, maybe because the DOF is shallower and you need a higher shutter speed on a long lens? Or do I just have a bad copy of the 70-200?
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stupot Goldmember 2,227 posts Joined Dec 2005 Location: UK, Portsmouth Uni / HW Bucks More info | Feb 18, 2006 05:09 | #2 it could be because its more difficult to hand hold the telephoto, and you're getting camera shake. i find it very sharp Canon EOS 350D, Sigma 10-20 f4-5.6, 24-105 f4L IS, 70-200 f4L, 300 f4L IS, Kenko 1.4x pro300, 430EX, Apple Powerbook G4
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Sam Goldmember More info | stupot wrote: it could be because its more difficult to hand hold the telephoto, and you're getting camera shake. i find it very sharp I second this one. Try some comparisons on a tri pod if you have not done so already. If you are still having issues it could be that you have a bad copy of the telephoto or a better than average wide angle. There are test charts and many discussions posted here in this part of the forum.
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GyRob Cream of the Crop 10,206 posts Likes: 1413 Joined Feb 2005 Location: N.E.LINCOLNSHIRE UK. More info | Feb 18, 2006 05:15 | #4 THEY do tend to look sharper because of dof and the shutter speed being faster for the focal lenth also helps get rid of camera shake they are not realy sharper than any other zoom but i find the shots from my 17/40 often look sharper. "The LensMaster Gimbal"
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fWord Goldmember 2,637 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia More info | One of the books I read not long ago said that images from telephotos occasionally look horrible because of the poor quality of the air. Hence, if you were photographing a subject very far away, a lot of this 'hazy' air in between will degrade the image. LightWorks Portfolio
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Tsmith Formerly known as Bluedog_XT 10,429 posts Likes: 26 Joined Jul 2005 Location: South_the 601 More info | Feb 18, 2006 08:04 | #6 I've noticed under the same type conditions that my two are fairly the same.
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gyrob wrote: THEY do tend to look sharper because of dof and the shutter speed being faster for the focal lenth also helps get rid of camera shake they are not realy sharper than any other zoom but i find the shots from my 17/40 often look sharper. Rob. This mirrors my experience. Love my 17-40 BTW. Elton Balch
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Jon Cream of the Crop 69,628 posts Likes: 227 Joined Jun 2004 Location: Bethesda, MD USA More info | fWord wrote: One of the books I read not long ago said that images from telephotos occasionally look horrible because of the poor quality of the air. Hence, if you were photographing a subject very far away, a lot of this 'hazy' air in between will degrade the image. This probably explains why one of my lenses turned in horrible, moth-bitten looking images of birds that were over 50 meters away compared with a magnificent image of a monitor lizard that was just a few meters away. In both cases the focal length was the same, and I'm sure that the shutter speed, combined with IS, would have made camera shake quite negligible. Hope there's a better explaination for this phenomenon. Quite true - with a tele, you're going to find atmospheric disturbances more obvious than with a wide. There are a number of factors that can contribute to poorer tele shots than wide shots. This, hand-holdable speed (which gives the secondary benefit to a wide of letting you use smaller apertures), and greater DoF with wides than teles will all affect the impression you'll get about a lens. Jon
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000) More info | Feb 18, 2006 12:10 | #9 Optically,. telephotos are inherently SHARPER. GEAR LIST
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SteveParr should have taken his own advice 6,593 posts Likes: 2 Joined Feb 2005 Location: San Diego, CA More info | Permanent banThe sharpest photos I've ever taken have been with either my 85mm f/1.8, or with the 70-200mm f/2.8. In all honesty, I find that my "wider" lenses (50mm f/1.8 and 28mm f/1.8) are a bit softer... Steve
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edrader "I am not the final word" More info | >>Optically,. telephotos are inherently SHARPER. http://instagram.com/edraderphotography/
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Jman13 Cream of the Crop 5,567 posts Likes: 164 Joined Dec 2005 Location: Columbus, OH More info | Feb 18, 2006 14:38 | #12 Especially in the Canon lens lineup, the telephotos are better. Canon's telephotos are the best in the business. The long primes are absolutely stellar. The short telephoto zooms are the best zooms made (70-200 L's and 80-200L). Jordan Steele - http://www.jsteelephotos.com
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fWord Goldmember 2,637 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia More info | btw, my 70-200L f4 is the sharpest lens i have ever used. LightWorks Portfolio
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ed2day Senior Member 633 posts Joined Jan 2005 Location: Boulder, CO More info | Feb 18, 2006 20:35 | #14 I second what CDS said. Wide angles are both more difficult to design and build, and perceptilby not as sharp in most cases. The MTF's agree. My 70-200/4 is incredible. Blows away my 24-70L at 70mm. I'd put it up against my primes, including the 135L, without blushing.
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Sean-Mcr Goldmember 1,813 posts Likes: 4 Joined Apr 2005 Location: Manchester, England More info | Feb 18, 2006 21:02 | #15 It's easier to design telephotos, they are naturally sharper, a wide should be no match for a tele. I don't know what good composition is.... Sometimes for me composition has to do with a certain brightness or a certain coming to restness and other times it has to do with funny mistakes. There's a kind of rightness and wrongness and sometimes I like rightness and sometimes I like wrongness. Diane Arbus
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