Average rates for models

On average, what would a fair rate for a model for a 1-1 1/2 hour session would be? How much would it increase when she's got some experience?

TIA

Do you mean for the model to pay you or for you to pay the model ? Generally I don't think that models without any experience get paid anything.

Me paying them. I think they should all be compensated for their time, regardless of experience.

If they are just starting out and not shooting nude, I only do TFP sessions, I will not pay a clothed model with no or limited experience. I have only paid one model and that was for a nude shoot just so my wife and I could get the practice of shooting someone nude. We paid $75 an hour for a two hour shoot and did her own hair and makeup (she was experience in that as well).

I have shot several other semi to full nude models since then without ever paying. The only way I would pay a model now is if there was a very specific look I wanted/needed or I was being paid to produce an image that in turn needed a model.

Ok, so it looks like $75 is a good ceiling. I will never ask a model to take her clothes off: this is for product/commercial and business headshots.

I honestly would not pay much more then $40 an hour for headshots. Unless she has that perfect look your going for. If your building a portfolio shooting with experienced models is great as they know what they are doing.

Alveric wrote in post #17119135
Me paying them. I think they should all be compensated for their time, regardless of experience.

If you shoot someone who has no experience in modelling you will be spending a lot more time coaching the model versus someone with experience.

dkizzle wrote in post #17122640
If you shoot someone who has no experience in modelling you will be spending a lot more time coaching the model versus someone with experience.

This is very true, I did a bikini shoot at the beginning of summer with a new model (she had 3 shoots under her belt), 2 hour session came out with 15 amazing shot, I just did a seasoned model last weekend and came away with 150 AMAZING images in 1.5 hours. I wound chimp and start to suggest the next pose, look up and she was already holding it before I could finish my thought.

Alveric wrote in post #17119184
Ok, so it looks like $75 is a good ceiling. I will never ask a model to take her clothes off: this is for product/commercial and business headshots.

Are these for stock? Or just for your portfolio? Does this inexperienced model want to get into modelling as a career? Therefore needing shots for her portfolio...

If she wants to get into modelling, and these shots are just to fill out your portfolio, TFP is more than fair.

You get what you pay for. I worked with a client who paid models $500 for a half day shoot. We knocked out the photos in around 20 minutes, where shoots with less experienced models required a lot more direction from myself / the creative director.

The images are both for my own portfolio and advertising. Some models are inexperienced and find the $50/hour acceptable; but more experienced models, especially those who've worked with major (as in transnational) businesses find that rate very low.

I don't find the TFP practice acceptable. It's akin to me shooting for a client for free because 'I'm just starting' or 'it's for my own portfolio'. The models give their time and burn a certain amount of petrol to get to my studio or whatever location. I think cash is fairer.

TF digital images is very acceptable - Unless, how far away is the model driving from? I will help out for gas money on a model I want, or an experienced one. I think that is very fair. particularly if they are driving to me. I don't ask models who are an hour away from me, experienced or not to come on their own dime. I stick with models 30 min or less from me, unless they are requesting to shoot with me.

However, if the resulting work generates income for me, I'd certainly want to send a percentage on - or make sure I do a favor for them sometime.

Alveric wrote in post #17123328
The images are both for my own portfolio and advertising. Some models are inexperienced and find the $50/hour acceptable; but more experienced models, especially those who've worked with major (as in transnational) businesses find that rate very low.

I don't find the TFP practice acceptable. It's akin to me shooting for a client for free because 'I'm just starting' or 'it's for my own portfolio'. The models give their time and burn a certain amount of petrol to get to my studio or whatever location. I think cash is fairer.

The whole point if TFP is that it is MUTUALLY beneficial. If it isn't mutual, you pay, or they don't turn up.
And for the record, I don't think there's anything wrong with shooting for free, if you're just starting up. You need a portfolio to get clients. Who in their right mind would book you just because you say you can take good photo's!?!

What is TFP?

Time for Photos, Time for Prints comes down to no one pays anyone, photographer gives the model images as payment for their time.