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Liking less my 24-70mm f2.8 II and 70-200mm f2.8 IS II

 
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Sep 02, 2014 14:49 |  #16

hiketheplanet wrote in post #17131799 (external link)
I think people buy zooms for convenience, and they can be practically a necessity for certain types of pro photogs like those who do events. I think zooms tend to be a compromise between aperture and a range of focal lengths. There are of course very excellent zooms like your two 2.8 zooms, but I'd always prefer the fast aperture of a prime. I think having a lens that goes open to 2, 1.4, or 1.2 even offers much more flexibility for someone like me who doesn't need to "make the shot" to put food on my table. As a hobbyist, I'd pretty much stick with primes. Just my 2 cents.

I can see a UWA zoom like in your sig to be OK since most of the time your at F8 anyway.


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Sep 02, 2014 16:26 |  #17

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I can see a UWA zoom like in your sig to be OK since most of the time your at F8 anyway.

Like you've said yourself, whatever the right tool for the job is. If I was looking for wide or ultra wide portraits, a 24mm prime would make more sense. I have yet to try and get any bokeh with my 16-35, just the opposite.




  
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Sep 02, 2014 22:27 |  #18

Buy both zoom and primes :)


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Sep 02, 2014 22:51 |  #19

As yet another unpaid hobbyist, I will say after leaving my T4i and 17-55mm, I am a prime guy.
While my gear is pro level I am not. As local opportunities presented themselves I upgraded rather quickly.
I have my 50L on 90% of the time and have a messenger bag to swap if needed.
If I go somewhere that I will need wide, the 24mm go on before I leave.
Having a wide, standard, and 'long' trio of primes works great for me.
I don't shoot sports and 90% of my photos are 'environmental-photos' and 'unpaid-journalist'
Reach for me is using my 100L, framing center, and cropping in post processing.


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Sep 03, 2014 01:54 |  #20

It's honestly a little bit of gear lust. I'm guilty of that too. I learned that it is all "mental" and nothing to do with the lens' capabilities.

All lenses are capable of creating amazing images. You got two awesome lenses right there.

There will always be a place for the 70-200 and the 135L. It just depends on when you want to use it. I love my zoom, but for travel or anything I'd rather take the 135L. It's your preference.


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Sep 03, 2014 06:57 as a reply to  @ post 17131799 |  #21

I am going through the same phase as well.
My beautiful 24-70 2.8 is not being used as much as it deserves, even though is superior optics. And in my case, it has been beaten by a mere 50mm 1.4, because is lighter, smaller, and more fun.
The 24-70 is a perfect glass, but not as wide as I would like sometimes, and with not enough reach as I would need some other time. But within 24 and 70, is pure perfection.

Of course if you earn your living with photography, you can't miss a shot and you need zoom and wide aperture, no matter what. But for an amateur like me, I think you prefer the constrain of a prime when trying to generate beautiful pics. Constraints keep the job simple, and simple gets you more meaningful images.




  
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Sep 03, 2014 07:06 |  #22

XxDJCyberLoverxX wrote in post #17132807 (external link)
It's honestly a little bit of gear lust. I'm guilty of that too. I learned that it is all "mental" and nothing to do with the lens' capabilities.

All lenses are capable of creating amazing images. You got two awesome lenses right there.

There will always be a place for the 70-200 and the 135L. It just depends on when you want to use it. I love my zoom, but for travel or anything I'd rather take the 135L. It's your preference.

Could not agree more with the bold text above.


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Sep 03, 2014 12:25 |  #23

What have you been using the long end of the zoom for Bobby?
If you get the 135, do you think you would use it more than the zoom? Or it will be once in a blue moon lens?


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Sep 03, 2014 12:46 |  #24

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What have you been using the long end of the zoom for Bobby?
If you get the 135, do you think you would use it more than the zoom? Or it will be once in a blue moon lens?

I will still want that 200mm f2 IS.:)


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Sep 03, 2014 13:18 |  #25

:eek:

bobbyz wrote in post #17133572 (external link)
I will still want that 200mm f2 IS.:)

This is my once in a blue moon lens haha. I think you should get it. You can make it shine.
Sell both zooms and you're almost there. Just need to buy it once. :)


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Sep 04, 2014 00:09 |  #26

sonnyc wrote in post #17133623 (external link)
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This is my once in a blue moon lens haha. I think you should get it. You can make it shine.
Sell both zooms and you're almost there. Just need to buy it once. :)

This has crossed my mind. That 200mm f2 is my next lens :cool:


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Sep 04, 2014 00:21 |  #27

I use a 24-70 and 70-200 tons during weddings. I will occasionally throw on the 50 and/or 135 if space permits. I'd love to get a 85 1.2 but I was not impressed with the slow AF when I borrowed on last wedding. For portraits, it would be great but other than that I was not happy with how many photos I missed.




  
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Sep 04, 2014 00:43 as a reply to  @ the flying moose's post |  #28

If I am well in control and know what type of comps and subjects I am going to be shooting, I'll usually pack primes. If I may have limited mobility (crowds, terrain, etc) and an unknown variety of subjects and comps to shoot, I find myself able to have a more fluid, fun experience with zooms -- they enable me to capture more.

My lighthearted mantra:

A good zoom makes pictures easier to take.
A good prime makes pictures easier to look at.

Frankly, I love both types of lenses. Every time I decide to favor one over the other, I soon experience a case where I'm glad I didn't divest of any of my lenses.




  
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Sep 04, 2014 00:54 |  #29

another hobbyist. own both. use both, and its never about sharpness/image quality.
the primes are lighter and smaller, and have faster aperture. However, I find on a full frame, I can usually live with 2.8.
on landscape shooting, I really prefer zooms, (except of TS), as getting my desired composition is key, and I am shooting stopped down anyway. around the house, taking picture of my kids, I am equally happy with the 24-70, as I am with a 24, 35, 50 or 85 prime, except when the light is really low. its nice to have both. If I had to choose, only 3 lenses, I would pick the 16-35 f4 IS, 70-200 2.8II IS, and a 50mm probably the sigma 1.4


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Sep 04, 2014 10:00 |  #30

Since I am only an amateur that has been taking pictures since the '70s (35mm back in the day, made only one magazine cover), I guess that my eyes must be going bad as zoom shots look OK to me. Of course I usually print 8x10s and I don't own a microscope. I do have several primes: 35 f2, 50 1.8 (my first digital lens) and a Sig 105 macro but most of my shots are with my 24-105, my 70-200 f4 is or my 70-300 is usm and all outdoors. I sometimes use a 1.4 extender on the 70-300 if I think I need more reach. From what I read here, the latter pair should produce images that are so degraded (unsharp) as to be unrecognizable. Good color and good shot selection combined with reseasonable sharpness is my goal. And imho, as my lens stable does their job, the rest is up to me!




  
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