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Sep 03, 2014 18:04 |  #1

Searching this forum and the various review sites I still did not find the answer... most of the cheaper/affordable wide angle lenses, like the Tamron 10-24mm seem to be for APS-C sensors only.

My widest lens at the moment is the 24-105 which is my favourite "walk around" that suits me 85% of the time. I don't need a wide angle very often, so I do not want to spend a heap of money on it.

Any ideas for a FF compatible wide angle zoom (10/15 - 30/40mm) with a Canon mount, not too soft at the edges, not too much CA and in PS/ACR manageable distortion at a reasonable price. I know I am asking a lot. But there are so many wise guys and girls on this forum so there should be an answer.


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Sep 03, 2014 18:10 |  #2

there might be an answer, but in regards to your requirements, you might not like it. It's gonna be expensive or come with some flaws.
I decided to go the prime way with a Rokinon 14mm and now the 8mm fisheye. The 14 is pretty decent, not good for everything, even with lens correction in LR (think brick walls or similar) but works great for landscapes, starry nights, and fun to play with the distortion (cars, funny faces, etc). And it's pretty cheap.


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Sep 03, 2014 19:42 |  #3

Yep, that's one of the problems with "going full frame"... You need bigger, heavier, more expensive lenses, too...

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Tokina 17-35/4 ATX..... $485 US.

Tokina 16-28/2.8 ATX... $615 US.

Canon 17-40/4L.......... $850 US.

Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6..... $875 US.

Canon 16-35/4L IS...... $1200 US

Canon 16-35/2.8L....... $1700 US.

Primes:

Zeiss 21/2.8 ZE.......... $1793 US (manual focus).

Voightlander 20/3.5..... $550 US (manual focus).

Canon EF 20/2.8.......... $550 US.

Sigma 20/1.8.............. $630 US.

Zeiss 18.3.5 ZE.......... $1345 US.

Canon TS-E 17/4L........ $2250 US (manual focus).

Zeiss 15/2.8 ZE........... $2900 US (manual focus).

Canon 14/2.8L II......... $2250 US.

Rokinon 14/2.8............ $350 US (manual focus & manual aperture, also sold as Samyang, Bower, Vivitar & more).


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Sep 03, 2014 20:10 |  #4

phantelope wrote in post #17134138 (external link)
there might be an answer, but in regards to your requirements, you might not like it. It's gonna be expensive or come with some flaws.
I decided to go the prime way with a Rokinon 14mm and now the 8mm fisheye. The 14 is pretty decent, not good for everything, even with lens correction in LR (think brick walls or similar) but works great for landscapes, starry nights, and fun to play with the distortion (cars, funny faces, etc). And it's pretty cheap.

Love my 14mm Rokinon. Great IQ and for the price ya can't beat it. Takes a little getting used to full manual but it compares well to the 14mm EF. and its about $1,000 cheaper



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Sep 03, 2014 21:26 |  #5

I have a Sigma 15mm prime and it works just great on my 6D. Very sharp and goes as wide as 2.8




  
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Sep 03, 2014 21:50 |  #6

Tokina 11-16 f/2.8. Yes, it is made for crop bodies but works quite well as a 16mm f/2.8 "prime" on a full-frame sensor.


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Sep 03, 2014 21:53 |  #7

Sigma 15 or 17-40 (which I have for sale ;))


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Sep 03, 2014 22:07 |  #8

n1as wrote in post #17134453 (external link)
Tokina 11-16 f/2.8. Yes, it is made for crop bodies but works quite well as a 16mm f/2.8 "prime" on a full-frame sensor.

Even better, put a 1.4x on that lens for FF, and you get another 1mm wider, effectively a 15-22 f4 lens.


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Sep 04, 2014 01:23 |  #9

n1as wrote in post #17134453 (external link)
Tokina 11-16 f/2.8. Yes, it is made for crop bodies but works quite well as a 16mm f/2.8 "prime" on a full-frame sensor.

Wouldn't that give a rather strong vignette?


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Sep 04, 2014 02:00 |  #10

The best one is forgotten : http://www.fredmiranda​.com …/233/sort/7/cat​/41/page/1 (external link)
It's a hidden gem, sharper (corner to corner!) and cheaper than 17-40 f4L and 16-35 2.8LII, out of production, superlightweight and compact, i you are luck you can still buy it on Ebay!


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Sep 04, 2014 02:01 |  #11

vk2gwk wrote in post #17134135 (external link)
Searching this forum and the various review sites I still did not find the answer... most of the cheaper/affordable wide angle lenses, like the Tamron 10-24mm seem to be for APS-C sensors only.

My widest lens at the moment is the 24-105 which is my favourite "walk around" that suits me 85% of the time. I don't need a wide angle very often, so I do not want to spend a heap of money on it.

Any ideas for a FF compatible wide angle zoom (10/15 - 30/40mm) with a Canon mount, not too soft at the edges, not too much CA and in PS/ACR manageable distortion at a reasonable price. I know I am asking a lot. But there are so many wise guys and girls on this forum so there should be an answer.

Heya,

Tamron 17-35 is fantastic and can be had for $250~300 usually on ebay.

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Sep 04, 2014 05:49 |  #12

vk2gwk wrote in post #17134663 (external link)
Wouldn't that give a rather strong vignette?

No the vignette goes away at 16mm with no tc, and with a tc, no vignetting at all throughout the range. Its a common trick to take 3rd party lenses for crop bodies and add a tc to them for use on fill frame.


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Sep 04, 2014 22:38 |  #13

Find a used Sigma 15-30. I love mine.


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Sep 05, 2014 00:13 |  #14

Love my Tokina 16-28mm but unfortunately, the flaring at night time while shooting in the city has led me to put it up for sale. Somehow, though, a Sigma 50mm found its way in, but that's another story


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Sep 05, 2014 03:57 |  #15

Thanks all for the info and suggestions. For the time being I think I'll make my "wide angle" shots with merging pano shots. No reliable wide angle primes on e-Bay and the rest is too much money for the few times I would need this sort of opening angle.


My name is Henk. and I believe "It is all in the eye of the beholder....."
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