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Sep 05, 2014 17:56 |  #31

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Also I don't know I'd use below 500-600 that much at all. Maybe for larger mammals or maaaybe for portraits, but I'd rather use a 135 F/2 or 85 1.4 instead.

There is the massively expensive 200-400, but how come all these things are like 50-500, 1xx-4/5/6xx, etc? Is it prohibitively expensive to do like a 300-600, 400-600, etc.?


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Sep 05, 2014 18:22 |  #32

I think this part excites me the most - knowing that I won't be able to afford the Sigma lens and hoping to scoop up a well-cared for Tamron at a much cheaper price

Yay for open market competition - come on Canon, join the fray

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It's classified as a Sports Lens. Perhaps I need to trade up from my Tamy.


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Sep 05, 2014 18:55 |  #33

Hrm,

Interesting. Direct match to Tamron, at twice the price.

I personally wouldn't get it. If I were buying a $2k zoom for those ranges, I would just save up a bit more, and get the Sigam 120-300 F2.8 and a TC.

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Sep 05, 2014 18:58 |  #34

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Hrm,

Interesting. Direct match to Tamron, at twice the price.

I personally wouldn't get it. If I were buying a $2k zoom for those ranges, I would just save up a bit more, and get the Sigam 120-300 F2.8 and a TC.

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I wouldn't need to... I have :D

I need to get a sigma 2x though.


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Sep 05, 2014 20:17 |  #35

MalVeauX wrote in post #17138082 (external link)
Hrm,

Interesting. Direct match to Tamron, at twice the price.

I personally wouldn't get it. If I were buying a $2k zoom for those ranges, I would just save up a bit more, and get the Sigam 120-300 F2.8 and a TC.

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Yeah. Although the new sport version is almost 2x the cost of the rumored price. Plus buying one or both of the TCs. But it sounds very nice.

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Sep 05, 2014 23:09 |  #36

MalVeauX wrote in post #17138082 (external link)
Hrm,

Interesting. Direct match to Tamron, at twice the price.

I personally wouldn't get it. If I were buying a $2k zoom for those ranges, I would just save up a bit more, and get the Sigam 120-300 F2.8 and a TC.

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My thoughts as well. 2k for a f5.6-6.3 lens is "meh" to me especially when the tamron version is just over $1000. If I was going to spend that much I'd rather just save up a bit more and get the 120-300 f2.8

If the lens was f4-5.6 and great IQ then I think I'd be in for the rumored $2000.




  
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Sep 06, 2014 01:31 |  #37

MalVeauX wrote in post #17138082 (external link)
Hrm,

Interesting. Direct match to Tamron, at twice the price.

I personally wouldn't get it. If I were buying a $2k zoom for those ranges, I would just save up a bit more, and get the Sigam 120-300 F2.8 and a TC.

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It's a perfect combination, however, the difference in prices is huge. Sigma 120-300 in B&H costs $3599 plus Sigma TC 2.0 $249 gives $3848. It's almost twice as much as announced Sigma 150-600 (~$2000).

We should wait for tests. In my opinion, crucial will be AF speed at long end.


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Sep 06, 2014 01:50 |  #38

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It's a perfect combination, however, the difference in prices is huge. Sigma 120-300 in B&H costs $3599 plus Sigma TC 2.0 $249 gives $3848. It's almost twice as much as announced Sigma 150-600 (~$2000).

We should wait for tests. In my opinion, crucial will be AF speed at long end.

Heya,

That's my point. If you're after this kind of zoom and you have $2k to toss at it, you probably are someone who will end up going after something like the 120-300 F2.8 and a TC. If you're not, then the Tamron at $1k seems like the better buy. Again, the Sigma at $2k for literally the same thing, some minor performance differences for sure, hopefully it will be a very fast to autofocus lens, but $1k more for that? I would think someone willing to pay $1k just for faster autofocus, probably is also going to want to wait, and go for something that has F2.8 aperture, and not F6.3 at the widest.

Just a thought, as I'm someone with a 150-600 Tamron. Even if I didn't already have it, I would not consider this same lens at $2k, at all. But I definitely consider if I were to buy another fast big telephoto, it would be something with faster aperture, like the 120-300 F2.8 as it becomes a 600 F5.6 with the TC, and without it, a 300 F2.8, which is quite a big difference.

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Sep 06, 2014 02:14 |  #39

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Heya,

That's my point. If you're after this kind of zoom and you have $2k to toss at it, you probably are someone who will end up going after something like the 120-300 F2.8 and a TC. If you're not, then the Tamron at $1k seems like the better buy. Again, the Sigma at $2k for literally the same thing, some minor performance differences for sure, hopefully it will be a very fast to autofocus lens, but $1k more for that? I would think someone willing to pay $1k just for faster autofocus, probably is also going to want to wait, and go for something that has F2.8 aperture, and not F6.3 at the widest.

Just a thought, as I'm someone with a 150-600 Tamron. Even if I didn't already have it, I would not consider this same lens at $2k, at all. But I definitely consider if I were to buy another fast big telephoto, it would be something with faster aperture, like the 120-300 F2.8 as it becomes a 600 F5.6 with the TC, and without it, a 300 F2.8, which is quite a big difference.

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On the other hand, if you don't have any of mentioned lenses, and you are going to buy one, it may be a good solution. Everything depends on what are you shooting at. For planes photographers Tammy isn't good due to its slow AF. Sigma 120-300 with TC is great, but quite expensive. New Sigma seems to be good compromise. There are plenty of amateurs who don't shoot in tough conditions, don't expect the L lenses quality and have a tighter budget.

I'm sure, that Sigma 150-600 will find plenty of buyers. We should be happy that we have more and more to choose from :-)

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Sep 06, 2014 03:40 |  #40

Many of the differences are not "minor". The new Sigma appears to be weather sealed, has two fluorite elements, will likely have faster autofocus, appears to be much better at 600mm than the Tamron on the MTF charts, allows you to lock the lens at any focal length, will accept TC's, and has Sigma dock compatibility. Not even close to the same thing.

I own the Tamron 150-600 right now, but if this Sigma is as good as it looks on paper, I'll gladly fork out the extra $800-$1000.

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Heya,

That's my point. If you're after this kind of zoom and you have $2k to toss at it, you probably are someone who will end up going after something like the 120-300 F2.8 and a TC. If you're not, then the Tamron at $1k seems like the better buy. Again, the Sigma at $2k for literally the same thing, some minor performance differences for sure, hopefully it will be a very fast to autofocus lens, but $1k more for that? I would think someone willing to pay $1k just for faster autofocus, probably is also going to want to wait, and go for something that has F2.8 aperture, and not F6.3 at the widest.

Just a thought, as I'm someone with a 150-600 Tamron. Even if I didn't already have it, I would not consider this same lens at $2k, at all. But I definitely consider if I were to buy another fast big telephoto, it would be something with faster aperture, like the 120-300 F2.8 as it becomes a 600 F5.6 with the TC, and without it, a 300 F2.8, which is quite a big difference.

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Sep 06, 2014 04:41 |  #41

It's funny how the lens isn't even out yet and it gets so much criticism. I remember a lot of talk in the Tamron thread with people saying they wish Tamron went for a higher price point with more emphasis on quality.

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Sep 06, 2014 05:14 |  #42

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It's a perfect combination, however, the difference in prices is huge. Sigma 120-300 in B&H costs $3599 plus Sigma TC 2.0 $249 gives $3848. It's almost twice as much as announced Sigma 150-600 (~$2000).

We should wait for tests. In my opinion, crucial will be AF speed at long end.

I just see cameraland on ebay (authorized dealer) just sell a 120-300 2.8 OS Sport model for 2900. So technically it would be around 3250.

For me.... I stick to the used market. I landed my 120-300 that was only 1.5yr old for 1675.... which officially means I'll never get rid of it :)


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Sep 06, 2014 07:34 |  #43

yeah, I got my 120-300OS (non sport) for similar money. And like you, probably won't ever feel I can afford to sell it :D


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Sep 06, 2014 07:36 |  #44

I've been keeping an eye on used 120-300 OS prices and currently they are £1300 over here... if only I had the extra £700 to get one.


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Sep 06, 2014 08:51 |  #45

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I've been keeping an eye on used 120-300 OS prices and currently they are £1300 over here... if only I had the extra £700 to get one.

thats around 2125 here. Not a bad price a tad higher than what I've seen. I've seen em here lately sell around 1900-2000 which is £1150-1225


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