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The merits of the 50L, and why it's worth the $1000 premium

 
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Sep 10, 2014 22:21 |  #16

^ On a side note, has anyone here tried the Nikon 50mm f1.2 on their EOS?
How does it compare to the 50L and 50 f1.4 by Canon in terms of image quality?
Not looking for any type of detailed comparison, just real world use, user feedback.


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Sep 11, 2014 01:51 |  #17

I shelled out the big bucks for the L because for me it was the best move. 50 is my favourite focal length and feel most comfortable using. I wanted the best build quality, weather sealing, and buttery effects of the 1.2. Is the difference mega at 1.2 vs 1.4, depends for each person, but for me it is. The effect is more subtle, but its there. The colours and contrast are way better than my previous 50 1.4 from Canon, I don't have to worry about missed focused or focussing motor breaking on me, this lens just works. For day to day work, my 50L is glued to my camera. I think I have shot 90% of my images this summer with this lens. Ive shot everything from weddings, to engagement session, to product shots, to portraits, to automotive work and it delivers every damn time. My "copy" is amazing wide open, sharp and nails focus whenever I want. Very very few instances I missed focus but it was user error. In the end, I do photography full time now and with every kit purchase Im thinking long term. Ive used Sigma before and frankly I simply don't trust them to get the job done the way I want it. Its all personal. If you feel like shelling out big cash for the L prime, then do it, who cares what forum goers say. The lens has paid for itself and then some and I have never looked back. This lens would be the last thing Id sell in my bag and frankly only reason I haven't switched to Nikon (along with the 135L which I will be getting soon).


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Sep 11, 2014 01:52 |  #18

InfiniteDivide wrote in post #17147154 (external link)
^ On a side note, has anyone here tried the Nikon 50mm f1.2 on their EOS?
How does it compare to the 50L and 50 f1.4 by Canon in terms of image quality?
Not looking for any type of detailed comparison, just real world use, user feedback.

My buddy is a Nikon shooter and Ive used the 50 1.2 Nikkor, its an amazing lens. The way it renders images is simply amazing. I'd love to get it one day along with a Sony A7 and go to town. Really delivers some truly unique images.


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Sep 11, 2014 01:57 |  #19

All wide open examples from my recent work:

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Sep 11, 2014 02:21 as a reply to  @ Tony_Stark's post |  #20

First off, Tony it's weird how similar our kits will be here soon. I'm returning the 14 and the 85 because frankly, they're too close in FL to what I have with the 16-35 & 50, and those two just get it done. I shot a ton tonight with the 50L after taking the 85 for a spin and came to the conclusion that I don't need the 85.

Shot some unreal stuff at 1.2 that was razor sharp and for how little light there was, absolutely incredible. The military should outfit themselves with 6D's and 1.2 glass if there's ever a shortage of night-vision goggles.

Anyway, the color, the fall-off, the bokeh, and oh yeah, the 50L is sharp! It takes some time and effort to understand it, but if you can unlock its secrets, you will be rewarded. There's no lens like the 50L, not even the 85L ii with the differences in the uncorrected spherical aberrations. It's an amazing lens.




  
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Sep 11, 2014 03:40 |  #21

hiketheplanet wrote in post #17140821 (external link)
When I was in the market for a new 50mm prime only a few months ago, I went for the 50L over the Sigma Art. I knew full well the Sigma was a sharper lens. Sharpness isn't everything...

Yes the 50L is very dreamy at 1.2-1.4, by 1.8 it is very sharp, at least my copy is anyway. From 2.2 onward, I'm pretty sure it's the sharpest lens I've owned. I can get dreamy, creamy, bokeh typically shooting at 1.8 (the nifty fifty and the 1.4 don't render anything like this at 1.8) The isolation ("pop" effect) of this lens at wide apertures is amazing. I've seen the Sigma art come very close, but not quite the same effect. Stopped-down aroubd 2.2 and smaller, this thing is wicked sharp.

I also highly value rugged gear. The 50L is weather-sealed, and built like an effing tank! I love it, and it is always on my camera, and sure can take a beating. I wouldn't trade my 50L for anything.

This exactly. Other than that are the colors and contrast of this lens amazing. My files turn out amazing already without any adjustments (even more amazing with minimal adjusments), which saves loads of time.
Peronally I find quite usable at 1.4 in terms of sharpness already. But the 1.2 just adds something of a whole new level. I don't see myself parting with this lens in a long, long time.



  
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Sep 11, 2014 14:52 |  #22

People that never shot at 1.2 (successfully) will never understand why the 50L is worth it


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Sep 11, 2014 15:50 |  #23

All very interesting and valid points made here. Perhaps I'll give it another go some time. I feel maybe I got super lucky on a very sharp copy of the Sigma 50 1.4, and very unlucky on my 50L copies. I don't consider it user error either, shooting at 1.2. I've been shooting fast primes for nearly a decade, starting out with a Nikon F3, and havn't ever had issues with nailing focus at 1.8, 1.4, etc.

panicatnabisco wrote in post #17148493 (external link)
People that never shot at 1.2 (successfully) will never understand why the 50L is worth it

I have owned and shot with an 85L II at one point, and shot at 1.2 quite a bit. As opposed to the 50L, I absolutely adore the 85L. I can make similar arguments about 85 1.2 vs 85 1.4 (sigma) though, but that's another topic for another time.

Here's a shot I made with the 85L @ 1.2, focus was on the near edge of the eye. :

IMAGE: http://www.thingsbyjohn.com/Misc/i-xFRwwMf/0/L/IMG_0117-L.jpg

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And another one at 1.2:

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So yeah, no stranger to 1.2 ;)



  
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Sep 11, 2014 16:18 |  #24

It makes beautiful images. It's easily my favorite lens. It has taught me a lot about photography.

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Sep 11, 2014 18:50 |  #25

All lenses will look good at these very small size ...
There is absolutely No need to buy a L for internet and the 1200x800 size ...

You want to show us the capabilities of your lenses > Put a minimum of 3000 pixels by 2000 pixels ;)


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Sep 11, 2014 18:58 as a reply to  @ Reservoir Dog's post |  #26

This being said, why is the 50L loved so much?

the 50L rates lower than any other L prime and maybe L zoomz I believe in the fred Miranda users reviews. the last time I looked it was on par with the 50 1.8 and lower than the 50 1.4.


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Sep 11, 2014 19:21 |  #27

Reservoir Dog wrote in post #17148912 (external link)
All lenses will look good at these very small size ...
There is absolutely No need to buy a L for internet and the 1200x800 size ...

You want to show us the capabilities of your lenses > Put a minimum of 3000 pixels by 2000 pixels ;)

Have no problem doing that. I have printed canvases sized 30 x 40 and never any issues.


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Sep 11, 2014 19:24 |  #28

Reservoir Dog wrote in post #17148912 (external link)
All lenses will look good at these very small size ...
There is absolutely No need to buy a L for internet and the 1200x800 size ...

You want to show us the capabilities of your lenses > Put a minimum of 3000 pixels by 2000 pixels ;)

I buy better, sharper lenses in order to print at larger sizes. A3 is my minimum starting print size. I don't pixel peep, but I do occasionally paper-peep. I'm also coining this term right now haha.

Unfortunately, it's difficult to showcase physical print quality on the internet. So smaller photos to show other lens qualities will have to do. ;)




  
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Sep 11, 2014 19:29 |  #29

ed rader wrote in post #17148926 (external link)
This being said, why is the 50L loved so much?

the 50L rates lower than any other L prime and maybe L zoomz I believe in the fred Miranda users reviews. the last time I looked it was on par with the 50 1.8 and lower than the 50 1.4.

Not only in Fred Miranda, but also in the digital picture, side by side with the Canon f/1.4, from f/1.4 to f/2 they look the same, and from f/2.8 to f/16 the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 is by far better over all (more sharp in mid-frame and corner and less CA !)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=4 (external link)

And if you compare the Canon 50mm f/1.2 side by side with the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art, woooww the slap that the sigma give to Canon hahaha, shame on Canon
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Sep 11, 2014 19:44 |  #30

Reservoir Dog wrote in post #17148989 (external link)
Not only in Fred Miranda, but also in the digital picture, side by side with the Canon f/1.4, from f/1.4 to f/2 they look the same, and from f/2.8 to f/16 the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 is by far better over all (more sharp in mid-frame and corner and less CA !)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com …omp=0&FLIComp=0​&APIComp=4 (external link)

Soooo a sharpness comparison. Whoop-dee-doo. Yes, many people will not buy the 50L because it's not sharp enough, whatever their measure is, and that it's kinda quirky in use. Bryan obviously didn't want to fiddle with it, and I respect that, like anyone else who doesn't care for this lens. But sharpness isn't everything, and the 50L has it over the 1.4 & 1.8 in every other aspect. I like mine. Wouldn't part with it. The 1.4 & 1.8 aren't in the same league. Maybe the Sigma Art is close, and sharper, but I still prefer the way my 50L renders.




  
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