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Sep 10, 2014 16:16 |  #1

I realllly want Canon to develop a 28mm prime in L series. 1.4 would be fine with me. I just need it. I got the 28 1.8, which is decent, but every time I use it I end up regretting not using my 35L. It's nice and small and light, but the quality is just not there, obviously. It's got its place I suppose, somewhat simpler look of the images and all that, a bit less saturated, which is fine with me, but the poor detail level is just sad.

Am I the only one? Maybe if we gather a massive list of signatures, we can convince Canon to design it...ye, of course we can :D


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Sep 10, 2014 17:44 |  #2

24L and 28mm f2.8 IS are both excellent.


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Sep 10, 2014 17:51 |  #3

I'm with you, 28mm is the ideal wide lens in my opinion. The 28/1.8 is on my buy list, but having a lens even nicer then that would definitely be sweet... I'm not sure why 28mm has become so unpopular.


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Sep 10, 2014 17:58 |  #4

nikon 28 1.8g is my favorite lens out of 5 prime lenses that I have :o I was hoping there was something equivalent if I make the switch to Canon eventually..


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Sep 10, 2014 23:47 |  #5

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I'm with you, 28mm is the ideal wide lens in my opinion. The 28/1.8 is on my buy list, but having a lens even nicer then that would definitely be sweet... I'm not sure why 28mm has become so unpopular.

I don't think it is unpopular. Canon just barely released the 28mm f2.8 IS. Nikon Coolpix A and Ricoh GR are both fixed lens 28mm cameras. Nikon released a 28mm f1.8 last year. Panasonic and Nikon 1 had 28mm equivalent prime kit lenses.


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Sep 10, 2014 23:55 |  #6

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I realllly want Canon to develop a 28mm prime in L series. 1.4 would be fine with me. I just need it. I got the 28 1.8, which is decent, but every time I use it I end up regretting not using my 35L. It's nice and small and light, but the quality is just not there, obviously. It's got its place I suppose, somewhat simpler look of the images and all that, a bit less saturated, which is fine with me, but the poor detail level is just sad.

Am I the only one? Maybe if we gather a massive list of signatures, we can convince Canon to design it...ye, of course we can :D

Heya,

The small and light part goes out the window when you go to F1.4.

A reasonable 28 F2L would make sense.

Otherwise, the EF 28 F2.8 IS is actually quite sharp.

Why not look into the 24L? Or Samyang 24 F1.4? It's only 4mm difference and has all that you're wanting.

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Sep 11, 2014 01:41 |  #7

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I don't think it is unpopular. Canon just barely released the 28mm f2.8 IS. Nikon Coolpix A and Ricoh GR are both fixed lens 28mm cameras. Nikon released a 28mm f1.8 last year. Panasonic and Nikon 1 had 28mm equivalent prime kit lenses.

My belief of it being unpopular comes mostly from this forum, there are very few members who shoot at 28mm regardless of what system they're using, many more people use a 24 or 35mm and when it comes to higher end and third party lens support those focal lengths get releases much more often.


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Sep 11, 2014 01:53 |  #8

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My belief of it being unpopular comes mostly from this forum, there are very few members who shoot at 28mm regardless of what system they're using, many more people use a 24 or 35mm and when it comes to higher end and third party lens support those focal lengths get releases much more often.

On that note,

It seems in the earlier days of lens-crafting, 28mm was pretty common due to physical attributes making affordable, but wide lenses with relatively fast apertures (F2.8). Lots of 28 F2.8 out there in the past. Today, a lot more emphasis on wider, and yet wider. I think that trend towards the ultrawides, which is something we didn't really have a lot of access to back then, may help drive why we still don't see much release in the form of 24mm, 28mm, etc, with innovation. But routinely we're seeing wider, and ultrawider lenses, with fast apertures at $300 price tags.

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Sep 11, 2014 03:46 |  #9

thanks for all the comments.

I find the 24 a bit too wide, and I do my best to compose in camera, so wouldnt want to crop in post. somehow the 28 is just the right fit for me. and yes, I do realise the L version would be as big and heavy as my 35L. still, I would even preorder that if they announced it.


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Sep 11, 2014 03:48 |  #10

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My belief of it being unpopular comes mostly from this forum, there are very few members who shoot at 28mm regardless of what system they're using, many more people use a 24 or 35mm and when it comes to higher end and third party lens support those focal lengths get releases much more often.

that may be because bot 24 and 35 have the high quality L glass, so just as in my case, I want the 28 but end up using the 35, as 24 is too wide. I know 4mm seems like its not much but for my eye, on the wide end, 4mm is actually a substantial visible difference.


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Sep 11, 2014 03:51 |  #11

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that may be because bot 24 and 35 have the high quality L glass, so just as in my case, I want the 28 but end up using the 35, as 24 is too wide. I know 4mm seems like its not much but for my eye, on the wide end, 4mm is actually a substantial visible difference.

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Sep 11, 2014 04:10 |  #12

haha, thnx Mal, did I mention autofocus ;) ?


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Sep 11, 2014 04:12 |  #13

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haha, thnx Mal, did I mention autofocus ;) ?

Psssssssshhhh, you don't need no stink'n autofocus when shooting that wide at that aperture. At F2 you might have to think a little bit, when lining up depth of field. But at F2.8 or F4, or even more narrow, it's a zero brainer to get everything in focus at this wide of an angle, hyperfocal just makes it too easy.

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Psssssssshhhh, you don't need no stink'n autofocus when shooting that wide at that aperture. At F2 you might have to think a little bit, when lining up depth of field. But at F2.8 or F4, or even more narrow, it's a zero brainer to get everything in focus at this wide of an angle, hyperfocal just makes it too easy.

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:) I shoot in servo at 1.8/2.8 with 35L, which is tricky but for my work best option.
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not sure i could get that with manual :/

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Sep 11, 2014 04:35 |  #15

Heya,

Actually you could have, notice the background is not even that out of focus? Wide angles have massive depth of field with each stop of aperture. If you were shooting at F2.8 at 28mm, you could leave the lens pre-focused to 3~4 feet in front of you, and most things are going to be in focus beyond that, with a small out of focus fall off way past that.

Try it sometime. You may find out you don't need autofocus as much as you think with a wide lens.

With a little practice, you can get shots without waiting for focus lock, and instead, fire in continuous drive. It's one of the really fun things about wide angles.

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