New 24-105 and 400 DO?

Seems legit.

http://www.canonrumors​.com/

Neilyb wrote in post #17147717
Seems legit.

http://www.canonrumors​.com/

everything seems legit until it's not

If the 24-105mm is true they should have saved it for a release with a new full frame camera...

HaroldC3 wrote in post #17148131
If the 24-105mm is true they should have saved it for a release with a new full frame camera...

Looks like it's not fixed F4... and the 24-105 is actually pretty good even wide open. How is this new one good?

It is legit. There are already pictures of it.

http://www.slrlounge.c​om …4-24-105mm-stm-24mm-f2-8/

whats the predicted price on that 400mm?

I want an updated 100-400mm L IS damn it! Not a DO f/4 still out of my price range!

Variable aperture will at least be sort of affortable for us common folk!

if the 24-105 has better optics than the L, light, and inexpensive, I'de pick it up. I want a general purpose landscape lens, and preferably light.

I do not get the 24-105 STM. There are no FF bodies that can use it, only 70D (and maybe 7D) with dual pixel wotnot. So why a 24-105 STM.... odd.

400 DO makes sense, Canon have to release a new one in order to justify a price hike to 10k

Neilyb wrote in post #17149465
I do not get the 24-105 STM. There are no FF bodies that can use it, only 70D (and maybe 7D) with dual pixel wotnot. So why a 24-105 STM.... odd.

Logically, this means there will be a full-frame camera with DPAF where this lens comes in the kit.

Think about it: what's the best way to introduce a new entry-level FF camera with a high Minimum Advertised Price (MAP)? Answer: sell it in a kit with a cheap lens and let the open market white-box the heck out of it. Look what happened to the 6D and the 24-105L, for example.

Now, the 24-105L is (or will be) discontinued, and the 24-70 F4L dropped $500 to a reasonable out-of-kit price, so there's a price-hole waiting to be filled by that "FF kit lens no one will ever buy at MAP anyway."

Again, presuming this lens actually exists.

Rad Encarnacion wrote in post #17149475
Logically, this means there will be a full-frame camera with DPAF where this lens comes in the kit.

Think about it: what's the best way to introduce a new entry-level FF camera with a high Minimum Advertised Price (MAP)? Answer: sell it in a kit with a cheap lens and let the open market white-box the heck out of it. Look what happened to the 6D and the 24-105L, for example.

Now, the 24-105L is (or will be) discontinued, and the 24-70 F4L dropped $500 to a reasonable out-of-kit price, so there's a price-hole waiting to be filled by that "FF kit lens no one will ever buy at MAP anyway."

Again, presuming this lens actually exists.

Exactly, make alarm bells tinckle since all other STM lenses were released with or after DP sensor cams.

STM doesn't require DPAF - it's just their silent (for video) motor. And a few (18-55, 18-135, etc) were released before the 70D

smythie wrote in post #17149570
STM doesn't require DPAF - it's just their silent (for video) motor. And a few (18-55, 18-135, etc) were released before the 70D

Incorrect. The actual point of STM is smooth autofocus racking during video, something you can't achieve without on-sensor AF. That was introduced in the 650D/T4i by replacing a number of capture pixels in a particular spread with dedicated AF pixels (which came with the 18-135 STM), then upgraded in the 700D/T5i with a wider spread of AF pixels (which came with 18-55 STM), then we had the 70D with its full implementation of DPAF - and then we learned the CXXX video cams that came before had dormant DPAF all along.

The relatively slower speed of the gear mechanism in comparison to USM lends itself to silent operation, but that's just a secondary benefit, given that in enthusiast and high-end video, it is best to use off-camera audio anyway.

Rad Encarnacion wrote in post #17149627
Incorrect. The actual point of STM is smooth autofocus racking during video, something you can't achieve without on-sensor AF. That was introduced in the 650D/T4i by replacing a number of capture pixels in a particular spread with dedicated AF pixels (which came with the 18-135 STM), then upgraded in the 700D/T5i with a wider spread of AF pixels (which came with 18-55 STM), then we had the 70D with its full implementation of DPAF - and then we learned the CXXX video cams that came before had dormant DPAF all along.

The relatively slower speed of the gear mechanism in comparison to USM lends itself to silent operation, but that's just a secondary benefit, given that in enthusiast and high-end video, it is best to use off-camera audio anyway.

I think he was saying was that an STM lens will work on any canon body. You just don't get the full benefit when recording video on a non-DPAF camera.

Rad Encarnacion wrote in post #17149627
Incorrect.

Not so. An STM lens will AF on any Canon EOS body (though the body needs PDAF for continual AF as against one shot) and a LOT of non STM lenses will allow PDAF in Live View and video.