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Sep 12, 2014 11:28 |  #31

I was really hoping for a 20mm EF pancake. Even if it was F3.5 like the Voightlander 20.

The Sigma Teles and Tamron UW and new 12mm fish look very interesting.

I don't understand another 24-105. The market is flooded with variants of these already.


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Sep 12, 2014 11:47 |  #32

Tommydigi wrote in post #17150183 (external link)
I don't understand another 24-105. The market is flooded with variants of these already.

Flooded? Don't think so.

The new one is an STM version aimed at the DSLR video market so at least it adds something new to the "flood".




  
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Sep 12, 2014 11:57 |  #33

Still its just a variant of something that already exists. since its variable aperture 24-200 or even 24-135 would have been more interesting. I'm guessing it will be pretty small and light which is nice.

I can see a market for it but still not terribly exciting.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:19 |  #34
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FEChariot wrote in post #17150063 (external link)
OR a current 4 stop IS version of the 300/4 or the mythical 100-400 II, and I would like to see a 2.8 UWA zoom for crop(that might make me want to stay on crop a bit longer and save me some money over going FF).

Since I bought my Rebel and switched to Canon from Minolta film in 2007 these are the only lenses Canon has came out with that have interested me:

35/2
16-35/4 IS
24-70 2.8 II
70-200/2.8
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10-18

The 24-70 II and 70-200 II are still probably lenses I will never own as they are at the top end of what I can justify spending for a hobby but at least they are in the rhealm of possibility. Canon came out will all the upgraded L primes and super tele's that are just too expensive or too specialized at the price for me as a hobbyist.

The 10-18 is a temping lens, but I would like to go FF at some point. I'll probably mass buy the 16-35 IS, 35/2 IS and 100L when I make the jump.

And yet looking at your sig, you have not purchased a single one of those lenses.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 12:40 |  #35

Tommydigi wrote in post #17150220 (external link)
Still its just a variant of something that already exists. since its variable aperture 24-200 or even 24-135 would have been more interesting. I'm guessing it will be pretty small and light which is nice.

I can see a market for it but still not terribly exciting.

I see absolutely no point of it either. None. Period.

It's worthless.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:45 |  #36

Hogloff wrote in post #17150258 (external link)
And yet looking at your sig, you have not purchased a single one of those lenses.

Daycare costs are puting a hurting on the finances lately so the saving part is going slow. The 16-35 IS, 35/2 IS and 100L are the short list from Canon at least.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:46 |  #37

Talley wrote in post #17150299 (external link)
I see absolutely no point of it either. None. Period.

It's worthless.

if it's sharp, light, and cheap, I'm all for it. A 24-105 for landscapes is damn nice to have. I'de be stopping down anyhow, so it doesnt need to be fast. Even a 28-135 or 28-200 with good optics, variable aperture, would be highly desireable for me and probably many others.

heck, the 16-35 doesnt even need to be F4 as far as I'm concerned. Variable aperture, smaller, lighter, would love it, similar to the 10-18 canon just put out.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:48 |  #38

I don't think its worthless. If its cheap and light it will make a nice travel lens just like the 24-70 F4 IS that came out last year.


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Sep 12, 2014 12:51 |  #39

Tommydigi wrote in post #17150321 (external link)
I don't think its worthless. If its cheap and light it will make a nice travel lens just like the 24-70 F4 IS that came out last year.

How cheap does it need to be though to to persuade some one to buy it over the constant aperture 24-105?


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Sep 12, 2014 12:53 |  #40

Come on, it's canon...it'll be $500-$600

The 24-70f4IS was a total bust at its intro price


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Sep 12, 2014 13:00 |  #41

DreDaze wrote in post #17150331 (external link)
Come on, it's canon...it'll be $500-$600

The 24-70f4IS was a total bust at its intro price

Exactly. This new STM 24-105 needs to release at $299.99 to be worth anything... why? I see the 24-105L sell for 600 new already.

Everyone bashes the 24-105L for being a bad performer but it's a great performer in the does everything "OK" department. I'm glad I picked another copy up.


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Sep 12, 2014 13:22 |  #42

FEChariot wrote in post #17150330 (external link)
How cheap does it need to be though to to persuade some one to buy it over the constant aperture 24-105?

I honestly can't think of many lenses, or potential lenses, I'd have less interest in than a 24-105 STM. And I use my 24-105L all the time. This thing would have to be really light and small, have IQ equal to the 24-105L, and be less than $400. And even if all that was true, if I just wanted something a little smaller I'd probably just wait and find a good deal on a 24-70 f/4L.

70D & Rebel video shooters have the excellent 18-135 STM to use. Who exactly is going to buy this thing unless it just becomes the default kit lens for the 6D & 7DII.




  
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Sep 12, 2014 13:28 |  #43

It's all the same stuff though... they release things.... we call it BS and criticize it.... then later on we realize that there was a market. Sorta like the 24 and 28 2.8 IS lenses. They do sell. May not be the ultimate lens type thing but they are out there.


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Sep 12, 2014 13:28 |  #44

FerozeK wrote in post #17149739 (external link)
Other than a new 7D what doesn't canon make that you want?

Are you serious? Well, assuming you are asking seriously, here are just a few of the things I want from Canon:

400mm f5.6 with IS

New 300mm f4 with latest 4-stop IS

500mm f5.6

600mm f5.6

35-150mm f4 L with IS

New 100-400mm with latest 4-stop IS

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Integrated, retractible hoods for their supertelephoto lenses
(similar to what is on the 300mm f4 and the 400mm f5.6)

Super-smooth tripod mount rings on their larger lenses. Fully adjustable, and will remain super-smooth regardless of what degree of tension you set them to. The existing tripod mount rings are ridiculously choppy and erratic.


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Sep 12, 2014 13:33 |  #45

Tommydigi wrote in post #17150183 (external link)
I was really hoping for a 20mm EF pancake. Even if it was F3.5 like the Voightlander 20.

The Sigma Teles and Tamron UW and new 12mm fish look very interesting.

I don't understand another 24-105. The market is flooded with variants of these already.

I am hoping for a nice 20mm as well!
Nikon just announced a 20/1.8. :cry:

A 20/2.8 pancake and/or 20/1.8 IS would be great.


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