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any monolight featured with ttl mode?

 
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Sep 14, 2014 21:28 |  #1

I know... I know.... Why would you dare to use TTL mode!! such a newb....

but I need this feature for my wedding and birthday locations.... I don't have time to do the metering light and so on, especially with kids.

I found fancy profoto b1 500 air ttl, but it is way out of my budget....

I prefer portable integrated battery, but I can get the vagabond mini and hook it up with it so make it manually portable...

Used value around $500~1000 range, any suggestions?




  
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Sep 14, 2014 23:58 |  #2

You found the only one!
Although the Yongnuo has been announced, no idea when it'll be available.

Shooting manual flash is a mindset, a technique to master, and it's easier and quicker than you think.

It's a matter of setting up your lights, then metering in your different shooting positions, then change your aperture (or ISO) as you move between those points.

Or you could use any of the moonlights that have remote control power, and alter the power as you move.


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Sep 15, 2014 00:09 |  #3

Quote from a post on Flashhavoc "TTL versions of the Godox Witstro AD180 and AD360 are also expected to be unveiled at Photokina." Here is the full post: http://flashhavoc.com …-ar400-ring-flash-coming/ (external link) Not a monolight but interesting.


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Sep 15, 2014 07:59 as a reply to  @ agv8or's post |  #4

Phottix has just announced one at Photokina. 500Ws with TTL and hss. Availability in October for around $1200.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:06 |  #5

The problem with using TTL on off camera lighting is that you will get inconsistent results, depending on what the flash "sees" in front of it. Stick with manual flash. It's not difficult.


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Sep 15, 2014 11:04 |  #6

jcolman wrote in post #17155590 (external link)
The problem with using TTL on off camera lighting is that you will get inconsistent results, depending on what the flash "sees" in front of it. Stick with manual flash. It's not difficult.

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I'm not sure what you mean by "what the flash sees" (isn't it ultimately what the sensor sees that determines the TTL exposure?). But I definitely agree with you that manual is the way to go as any change in the framing even with fixed light and subject positions could change the flash exposure. I for one would not pay any extra to have TTL on a monolight like this or the Profoto B1.


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Sep 15, 2014 12:44 |  #7

jcolman wrote in post #17155590 (external link)
The problem with using TTL on off camera lighting is that you will get inconsistent results, depending on what the flash "sees" in front of it. Stick with manual flash. It's not difficult.

TTL = through the lens. The flash doesn't see or meter the light - the camera exposure meter does.




  
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Sep 15, 2014 21:47 |  #8

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TTL = through the lens. The flash doesn't see or meter the light - the camera exposure meter does.

Of course it does. However we are talking about an off camera light, not on camera. I assume that the thread starter wants a light that will "read" the scene and adjust the amount of light to what his camera sees. This would require a radio or light pulse signal to and from the camera lens to the light. While technically possible, it's not really practical in my mind. For example If a person wearing a white shirt were to walk in front of the light, it would likely throw the metering of what the light "sees" off and cause it to not put out enough light thereby under exposing the shot. Hence my comment about sticking with constant power output from your off camera lights.


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jcolman wrote in post #17157194 (external link)
Of course it does. However we are talking about an off camera light, not on camera. I assume that the thread starter wants a light that will "read" the scene and adjust the amount of light to what his camera sees. This would require a radio or light pulse signal to and from the camera lens to the light. While technically possible, it's not really practical in my mind. For example If a person wearing a white shirt were to walk in front of the light, it would likely throw the metering of what the light "sees" off and cause it to not put out enough light thereby under exposing the shot. Hence my comment about sticking with constant power output from your off camera lights.

The flash does not determine the exposure nor does the metering: the camera does. The flash requires to be connected to or communicating with the camera somehow. The monolight fires a pre-flash, the camera reads it, calculates the exposure and then relies the info to the monolight so that the real 'flash' is of a certain power —the one required for the exposure to be correct.

Buyers of the Profoto B1 require the Profoto Air remote in order to use the unit in TTL mode.


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Sep 15, 2014 23:24 |  #10

Alveric wrote in post #17157212 (external link)
The flash does not determine the exposure nor does the metering: the camera does. The flash requires to be connected to or communicating with the camera somehow. The monolight fires a pre-flash, the camera reads it, calculates the exposure and then relies the info to the monolight so that the real 'flash' is of a certain power —the one required for the exposure to be correct.

Buyers of the Profoto B1 require the Profoto Air remote in order to use the unit in TTL mode.

Yes, you are right, I stand corrected. I was thinking that the flash would determine the distance to subject and set the power accordingly then send the information to the camera.


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