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Canon officially announces the 7D Mark II

 
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Sep 15, 2014 10:43 |  #166

I think I got pretty close on the specs considering I wrote this in November 2013.

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Ok, here's my predictions on what we will get in a new 7D Mark II if it shows up in the next six to months.

-20.2 MP dual-pixel sensor
-61 point AF all cross type(f/8 support on center point)
-Movie servo AF w/facial recognition
-8.5 frames per second (50+ full size raw capable buffer/unlimited JPEG)
-3" articulating touch screen
-H.265 video codec (10bit 4:4:4, 2.5K, 1080p60)
-Clean HDMI out
-Dual Digic 6+ processors
-ISO 100-25600
-On-screen level
-Wifi
-Dual card slots (one CF, one SD)
-10-bit JPEG compression??
-List price=$2499.00

This is not my wish list. It is just my best guess on what we will get based on what Canon has done recently, what the competition is doing and what technology is emerging.

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Sep 15, 2014 10:43 |  #167

the thoughts of a 5D3 + 7D2 combo is starting to sound really nice right now




  
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Sep 15, 2014 10:43 |  #168

vipergts831 wrote in post #17155688 (external link)
And put a sony sensor in there ;)

Not sure that if that would be a wise business decision for either Canon or Sony. In the part of my mind that is paranoid I am thinking that Nikon is just a pawn to spread out the market share. A strategy aka "Divide and Conquer". Sony has the mega advantage in sensor development because of $$$.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:45 |  #169
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Hot Bob wrote in post #17155707 (external link)
I think I got pretty close on the specs considering I wrote this in November 2013.

Bob

and i told forget about h265 ;) guess i was right too ;)


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Sep 15, 2014 10:47 |  #170

Brian_R wrote in post #17155709 (external link)
the thoughts of a 5D3 + 7D2 combo is starting to sound really nice right now

Yeah. Just like the 5dii +7D days. Then from me, (5dii +7D) = 5diii. Soon it will be 5diii+ 7Dii. Then next year (5diii + 7Dii) = 5d4. I see a trend for me.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:48 |  #171

lol im just looking to save money wherever i can for sports. if the 7D2 impresses it will save me from buying a 1DmkIV which i really want but isnt a smart investment when i can stick with all the same batteries




  
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Sep 15, 2014 10:49 |  #172

amfoto1 wrote in post #17155587 (external link)
Like Canon's other more pro-oriented cameras, it will use a separate WFT module that gives about 10X the range and better performance than built-in WiFi.

Camera also would need to be more plasticky to accommodate built-in WiFi. Canon mentions that built-in WiFi doesn't work well with metal clad bodies, such as 7D, 5D and 1D series.

Good point.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:51 |  #173

travisvwright wrote in post #17155579 (external link)
From the WEX video:

“(20.2 MP)…which is actually the same resolution as what we’ve got in our 70D. But this is actually a brand new sensor. What we’ve done is we’ve redesigned the microlenses, that are actually on each individual pixel, to make the camera more efficient, so it will give you better image quality especially in low light conditions”. – Dave Perry, Canon UK

Somewhere I saw a quote that said that they have also improved the light transmission of the color filters, getting more light to each of the sub-pixels.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:53 |  #174

ACESFULL82 wrote in post #17155636 (external link)
Has anybody heard of the release date yet? An actual date?

On the 7D2 pre-order page it says expected ship date is Nov 17th.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:53 |  #175

Finally looks like Canon delivers another interesting camera.
1. Robust Mag body
2. Decent pixel density and 20.2 MPS enough....
3. Dual Digic 6 processors
4.USB 3.0 - fantastic!!
5. Dual Pixel Auto AF in video - finally!
6. dual card slot, and fast SD slot - thank god!

All great pointers for the 5D Mk IV - all they need to add is 4K Video and I would be happy.
Add Exposure linked to the Selected AF point and 36 MPS and I would upgrade lol.

This seems like a really nice camera for the Crop brigade. Should be great for Action Sports on a budget.
The UK price is good, will be out at £1,100 in a few months.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:54 |  #176

nekrosoft13 wrote in post #17155720 (external link)
and i told forget about h265 ;) guess i was right too ;)

I wouldn't count that out yet! The Samsung NX1 has h.265 and I haven't seen the codec for the 7DII mentioned yet. I think it will have the processing power to support it.

I will also say that most of the things I missed on, Canon did better. I will be buying this camera.

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Sep 15, 2014 10:54 |  #177

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I'm sorry, are we worrying about the extra gram of the chipset now? :rolleyes:

Yup! ;-)a And the extra weight of the slightly larger case needed to contain it. And the antenna (which needs to be outside of the metal body). Of course, the complexity is the main issue, not the weight.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:54 |  #178

snake0ape wrote in post #17155710 (external link)
Not sure that if that would be a wise business decision for either Canon or Sony.

I think it would be great for both companies. In fact, I think it would be much like the current console market. The PS4 and Xbone One both have roughly the same AMD chipset inside of them. Never before in the history of gaming consoles have two big rivals been so similar in architecture. And because AMD is able to make so many APUs, Sony and Microsoft are able to get good prices on them.

I would love to see a world where Canon and Nikon are both using the same sensors, because it would allow each company to spend their R&D dollars on other stuff like image processors, lenses, and AF systems.

Samsung just proved today that it's hungry to get into the "big boy" photography space. They will likely become Sony's biggest rival in sensor technology, which will keep both companies from becoming complacent.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:55 |  #179

huntersdad wrote in post #17155455 (external link)
I think the official announcement said there was a new new grip, but that the batteries AND grip were backwards compatible. I take that to mean you can use the new batteries in the old grip in the new camera.

But I could be wrong.

No... read it more carefully. What it says is that the original LP-E6 will work in the 7DII and new BG-E16 grip.... I.e., that the camera and grip are backward compatible. It doesn't say the new LP-E6N batteries are backwardly compatible and will work in the older cameras and grips (but one would hope they are ) that used the LP-E6.

One thing that worries me a little is that the Canon specs state the date/time battery is built in (60D/70D style?). If that's correct, it's not user interchangeable, but built right into one of the circuit boards of the camera. This will require sending the camera in for repair, if that battery goes out. 7D Mark I's date/time battery is in a little drawer inside the main battery compartment and is easily user replaced, if and when needed.

OTOH, I am really jazzed that the BG-E16 has a secondary joystick! That will make for somewhat smoother portrait orientation shooting. The new grip's battery "drawer" will be nice, too, compared to the door arrangement on the current camera's grip. With those you can pre-load extra drawers, making for a little faster battery changes. I'm a little disappointed they didn't just call it a BG-E7 "Mark II" grip, instead of BG-E16.


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Sep 15, 2014 10:56 |  #180

DreDaze wrote in post #17155535 (external link)
the eye-fi cards are pretty crappy in comparison to the App for canon...

in my opinion the lack of an articulating screen, and wifi makes it more difficult to get the camera in those awkward spots

looks like a nice camera though, and it's cheaper than i thought it would be...i'll probably still hang on to my 70D...it's like when i bought my 40D, and the 7D came out a few months later...

Yeah, I would have liked to see an articulating screen too.


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