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Mar 18, 2017 11:19 |  #16576

so what could I do to make it better????

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was done with 1.4 tele hence 280mm
I also noticed that lightroom doesn't recognize the tele so this pics is SOOC but just wanted to see if LR would see lens profile and no it didn't...

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Mar 18, 2017 11:36 |  #16577

TeleFragger wrote in post #18304213 (external link)
so what could I do to make it better????

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was done with 1.4 tele hence 280mm
I also noticed that lightroom doesn't recognize the tele so this pics is SOOC but just wanted to see if LR would see lens profile and no it didn't...

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Wait for a better day with the birds a little closer and facing you. Shooting @ ISO 4000 and f/4 and only getting 1/1000th, seems severely overcast. Looks like the focus points were right on the subjects. I know ducks are pretty quick, so a higher SS would probably help. I'm sure others will be more help. Also, for some reason it says # of focus points where focus was achieved "0". Is that from Lightroom?

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Mar 18, 2017 11:49 as a reply to  @ jccj58's post |  #16578

Yes LR plugin i just found. Ill try in dpp when i get home.


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Mar 18, 2017 11:50 as a reply to  @ TeleFragger's post |  #16579

Since you just got your Tamron, have you done the AF MA, with and without the teleconverter?




  
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Mar 18, 2017 12:02 |  #16580

TeleFragger wrote in post #18304213 (external link)
so what could I do to make it better????

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was done with 1.4 tele hence 280mm
I also noticed that lightroom doesn't recognize the tele so this pics is SOOC but just wanted to see if LR would see lens profile and no it didn't...

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Did you try putting Tamron in the lens profile?


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Mar 18, 2017 12:11 |  #16581

Did you verify that the birds came into focus before shooting. LR just seems to show what AF points were selected. Like you said DPP will show which actual points were activated. Even then depending on your TS settings the points could be on the bird and it if changes directions during a burst ti points could be no where near the bird and yet it can still be in focus.

Analyzing AF points in AI Servo can be tricky and deceiving. I rarely care about what the AF points are doing. I go with my eye and see the bird/s come into focus before I shoot.

Like stated was MFA checked? Also there may so atmospheric haze in that shot. I doubt it but you never know. Have you tried just some stills to see how everything is performing?


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Mar 18, 2017 12:34 |  #16582

Thats a plugin and there are updates, did the update get done first. I don't believe LR has a AF point component to it and Like DP said it's a fruitless endeavour. Getting to know your equipment is a better way to go. Shutter speeds of 1/1000 with a iso in the 4000 range and a thin f4 with bushes in the background is a super tough go. Jeff a nice sunny day can make all the difference. Shoot where the BG is a good ways back with better light and a good lead time to start your swing. Maybe a local dump lol..... gulls are your friend


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Mar 18, 2017 12:47 |  #16583

thx guys...
yeah I know a sunnier day but since were in rain/snow time that aint gonna happen and I wanna SHOOT!!!! hah..

mfa - never have on ANY of my lenses albeit I believe I should...

my eyes suck anymore so it is tougher to see if the birds are in focus b4 firing....

so those pics were unedited and just an export in LR...

these I went in and went to choose Enable Profile Corrections and typically it picks up my lenses... but this one it didn't but when I chose Tamron from the dropdown it then selected the right one go figure...

yeah so I get that I need better days and a higher F and lower ISO... just testing around and "getting to know my equipment" better... LOL


so some more for yall....

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Mar 18, 2017 13:04 as a reply to  @ TeleFragger's post |  #16584

99% of the time walking around shooting at 1/100 is going to give you motion blur. Some lenses have very good IS and some just ok. The one thing most people have a hard time with is letting go of the iso just a little and getting some speed, say at least as high as your focal length. Once I got comfortable with my gear I could shoot way slower but better results in the beginning will give you confidence and in return... even better results.


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Mar 18, 2017 13:07 |  #16585

Of course everything I say must be taken with a grain of salt. I am no expert,.. Just a shooter with an attitude Lol


You must live near a buddy of mine in Jersey, he's a 4x4 freak and darn good at it


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Mar 18, 2017 13:08 |  #16586

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99% of the time walking around shooting at 1/100 is going to give you motion blur. Some lenses have very good IS and some just ok. The one thing most people have a hard time with is letting go of the iso just a little and getting some speed, say at least as high as your focal length. Once I got comfortable with my gear I could shoot way slower but better results in the beginning will give you confidence and in return... even better results.

yeah for the birds I was trying @ 1/1000 not 1/100... the ones above are @ 1/100... I know I coulda gone higher but didn't think it was needed...

and also that LR plugin is deceiving. I didn't notice it said 0 focus achieved.. but had the red boxes like it did...

DPP once again shows why its so good... grrrr yeah 0 points... was auto focusing BBF the entire time..

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Mar 18, 2017 13:13 as a reply to  @ TeleFragger's post |  #16587

Yes I know, using the 7DII for the last few years I think of 1/1000 as slow on most things moving. Their so darn fast, parts of them would still be blurred at 1/2000. I just updated that plugin this morning


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Yes I know, using the 7DII for the last few years I think of 1/1000 as slow on most things moving. Their so darn fast, parts of them would still be blurred at 1/2000.

nice to know.. I have never attempted birds so had no real starting point. I am planning on checking out the BIF section and see typical SS/f ..

I know for sports and depending on age where to be... birds .. yeah.. aight.. thx


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Mar 18, 2017 13:18 as a reply to  @ TeleFragger's post |  #16589

I wanted this stopped or as close to stopped as possible so I knew I needed 1/3200 and dialed it in as soon as I seen the fox across the pond. Detail in feather and fur is a super tough thing to achieve at speed.


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Mar 18, 2017 14:18 |  #16590

Two from yesterday evening at the Alligator Farm. Didn't see vast numbers of roosting birds.

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