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Jun 09, 2017 08:29 |  #17626

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Interesting you think your negative feedback is of interest to anyone on this forum. A man's artistic impression of an image he himself produced is every bit as relevant as the next guy. I for one wish I had the talent to produce such a work.

How strange that you feel the need to berate me for a comment that I made about a picture that was submitted by someone else.

I am sure that Bianchi will tell me if he is offended by my post, I can't imagine why he would be, it wasn't intended as negative feedback, it was a genuine question ..... I asked if it was a composite.

Surely the whole point of putting your picture on the forum is one of sharing the image with other people and that inevitably results in discussing aspects of capturing and processing the image. If we can only post the pictures without making comments or enquiries then we might just as well put our pictures on a photo hosting site where we won't get any contact with other users.




  
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Jun 09, 2017 10:17 |  #17627

Ramon-uk wrote in post #18374504 (external link)
How strange that you feel the need to berate me for a comment that I made about a picture that was submitted by someone else.

I am sure that Bianchi will tell me if he is offended by my post, I can't imagine why he would be, it wasn't intended as negative feedback, it was a genuine question ..... I asked if it was a composite.

Surely the whole point of putting your picture on the forum is one of sharing the image with other people and that inevitably results in discussing aspects of capturing and processing the image. If we can only post the pictures without making comments or enquiries then we might just as well put our pictures on a photo hosting site where we won't get any contact with other users.


However, there are ways of asking questions, and "ways" of asking questions. By starting with a strong negative in your original post, it implies that you are in a way looking down on the effort that Bianchi put into his image. And by pointing out what was wrong with sizing - in your opinion - added to the negative feel of the post. When I first read it I was surprised by the tone. It's fine to not like a style or the way something is processed, and it's fine to say that if asked. But to throw out a comment with two strong negatives and then ask a question, it didn't feel like you just wanted to know if it was a composite.

Usually I don't comment on something like this, but I was surprised by the strength of the original post...



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Jun 09, 2017 10:42 |  #17628

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However, there are ways of asking questions, and "ways" of asking questions. By starting with a strong negative in your original post, it implies that you are in a way looking down on the effort that Bianchi put into his image. And by pointing out what was wrong with sizing - in your opinion - added to the negative feel of the post. When I first read it I was surprised by the tone. It's fine to not like a style or the way something is processed, and it's fine to say that if asked. But to throw out a comment with two strong negatives and then ask a question, it didn't feel like you just wanted to know if it was a composite.

Fair enough.

I have since found the answer to my question, after looking at Bianchi's Flickr Photostream I can see that he does a fair number of composites and can actually see most of the component parts of the picture that I commented on appear in other pictures of his, so yes it is a composite. I would like to add that some of his other more straightforward images in that photostream are extremely good.

In future I will reserve my comments for the C & C forum and refrain from making comments in this thread where it seems that only 'praise' is allowed.




  
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Jun 09, 2017 10:46 |  #17629

Ramon-uk wrote in post #18374562 (external link)
Fair enough.

I have since found the answer to my question, after looking at Bianchi's Flickr Photostream I can see that he does a fair number of composites and can actually see most of the component parts of the picture that I commented on appear in other pictures of his, so yes it is a composite. I would like to add that some of his other more straightforward images in that photostream are extremely good.

In future I will reserve my comments for the C & C forum and refrain from making comments in this thread where it seems that only 'praise' is allowed.

I'm not saying praise only, but the tone can matter a great deal. Ask questions, and then dig in further with the poster of the image. It may be he/she would like more C&C. But ask first and then maybe question the approach or style - that sets a good foundation and lets you go from there.

Sorry if I seemed a bit preachy earlier!



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Jun 09, 2017 11:02 |  #17630

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In future I will reserve my comments for the C & C forum and refrain from making comments in this thread where it seems that only 'praise' is allowed.

:-):-)

That is a pretty good rule to go by.

There are some members who have complained about a lack of criticism, saying there is a reduced opportunity to learn because of this. But C&Cers will be attacked, so it's best to only praise.


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Jun 09, 2017 12:23 |  #17631

I don't think we need to only praise, but as said there ways and ways of saying things.

Tone is everything if you do post something negative. It never hurts to go a bit gentle and say something nicely, more important in an electronic medium than otherwise.

In this case I don't think Ramon intended offence, but was perhaps a bit to blunt and so some people were offended.


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Jun 09, 2017 12:28 |  #17632

Ramon-uk wrote in post #18374562 (external link)
Fair enough.

I have since found the answer to my question, after looking at Bianchi's Flickr Photostream I can see that he does a fair number of composites and can actually see most of the component parts of the picture that I commented on appear in other pictures of his, so yes it is a composite. I would like to add that some of his other more straightforward images in that photostream are extremely good.

In future I will reserve my comments for the C & C forum and refrain from making comments in this thread where it seems that only 'praise' is allowed.

Nothing good could come from your first post !! It's not about praise or negative comments. It's about a style.. a work.. an art that someone puts great effort into. Had you taken the time to look into the mans works you would have answered your own questions. Then maybe had some input. I'm maybe over sensitive but I was on Facebook this morning.. lol


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Jun 09, 2017 12:30 |  #17633

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I maybe over sensitive but I was on Facebook this morning.. lol

:-P I can relate to that !


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Jun 09, 2017 12:34 |  #17634

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:-P I can relate to that !

lol I know. lol


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Jun 09, 2017 16:43 |  #17637

Who said crop camera cannot do high ISO? , my first owl capture at almost no light left this evening.


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Jun 09, 2017 16:50 |  #17638

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Jun 09, 2017 20:09 |  #17640

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Awesome - and I see you had the largest aperture, and slowish shutter. Did you have to raise exposure at all in Post?


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