-= 7D2 owners unite! Discuss and post photos!

McNeese72 wrote in post #18688609
Haven't posted anything here in awhile. Going to interrupt all the wildlife and scenery photos with some football photos being as football is about to crankup. A few photos from McNeese's scrimmage last Saturday.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/28Un​Brc Football Scrimmage 8/18/2018 by Richard Martin, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2ad8​YL5 Football Scrimmage 8/18/2018 by Richard Martin, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/28Un​But Football Scrimmage 8/18/2018 by Richard Martin, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2ad8​YRW Football Scrimmage 8/18/2018 by Richard Martin, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/27wz​we9Football Scrimmage 8/11/2018 by Richard Martin, on Flickr

Doc

Crisp, sharp images that capture the action very nicely, Doc...well done.

I notice some in here have a 5D4 as well as 7DII. question, can a 5D4 replace the 7DII in all areas ? I do vaguely remember seeing a bird photographer test the difference and he chose to stay with 7DII for birding but I am just curious if once cropped you would have as good an image from 5D4 I do like having those 10 frames a second

i dont think it can. I have both and I grab for the 7D2 more often for sports as the main shooter and the 5D4 as the secondary. Then I use the 5D4 for my portrait and product photo work. In the darker areas of a football field I will swap to the 5D4 but generally stick with the 7D2.

aladyforty wrote in post #18688891
I notice some in here have a 5D4 as well as 7DII. question, can a 5D4 replace the 7DII in all areas ? I do vaguely remember seeing a bird photographer test the difference and he chose to stay with 7DII for birding but I am just curious if once cropped you would have as good an image from 5D4 I do like having those 10 frames a second

Julie...I have had both camera bodies for a few years now, and I've kind of gone back and forth as far as which one I prefer for bird shooting (especially BIF). My conclusion is that for strictly bird shooting, the 7DII comes out the winner over the 5DIV, without a doubt in my mind. Others will certainly disagree with me, but the proof is in the number of keepers I end up with when comparing the two cameras. I really like the 1.6 crop factor and the 10 frames/sec that the 7DII offers. I don't like to use any teleconverters when shooting birds in flight because the focus speed is slowed down (regardless of what others say), and for the small birds especially, I want instant focusing. So I shoot the 7DII with my Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II. lens, and figuring in the crop factor, I basically have a 650 mm lens equivalent. I use this set up the great majority of the time. My 5DIV is generally attached to my Canon EF 500mm f/4L IS II along with a 1.4 or a 2.0 TC. My settings are set for static shots rather that BIF. I get wonderful images with this set up, but rarely shoot a bird on the wing. I'm very fortunate to be able to shoot with both these cameras, but if I had to give one of them up, it would be the 5DIV.

I've never really compared the cropping ability side by side between the two cameras, but the 7DII will crop an image much better that most people give it credit for. Logically I would expect the best crops to come from the 5DIV, but honestly I don't buy that. I'm frequently amazed how nicely the 7DII images can be cropped, and still keep high image quality.

At high ISO's the 7DII is a bit noisier that the 5DIV, but that is pretty easy to handle with today's noise reduction programs that are on the market. The noise really cleans up well.

I hope this has been a little helpful, but remember, it's only my opinion.

Mike

Lame-Duck wrote in post #18688987
Julie...I have had both camera bodies for a few years now, and I've kind of gone back and forth as far as which one I prefer for bird shooting (especially BIF). My conclusion is that for strictly bird shooting, the 7DII comes out the winner over the 5DIV, without a doubt in my mind. Others will certainly disagree with me, but the proof is in the number of keepers I end up with when comparing the two cameras. I really like the 1.6 crop factor and the 10 frames/sec that the 7DII offers. I don't like to use any teleconverters when shooting birds in flight because the focus speed is slowed down (regardless of what others say), and for the small birds especially, I want instant focusing. So I shoot the 7DII with my Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II. lens, and figuring in the crop factor, I basically have a 650 mm lens equivalent. I use this set up the great majority of the time. My 5DIV is generally attached to my Canon EF 500mm f/4L IS II along with a 1.4 or a 2.0 TC. My settings are set for static shots rather that BIF. I get wonderful images with this set up, but rarely shoot a bird on the wing. I'm very fortunate to be able to shoot with both these cameras, but if I had to give one of them up, it would be the 5DIV.

I've never really compared the cropping ability side by side between the two cameras, but the 7DII will crop an image much better that most people give it credit for. Logically I would expect the best crops to come from the 5DIV, but honestly I don't buy that. I'm frequently amazed how nicely the 7DII images can be cropped, and still keep high image quality.

At high ISO's the 7DII is a bit noisier that the 5DIV, but that is pretty easy to handle with today's noise reduction programs that are on the market. The noise really cleans up well.

I hope this has been a little helpful, but remember, it's only my opinion.

Mike

We're pretty much wearing the same shoes, Mike. When I first got the 5D4 I was ecstatic that it had all the firmware and customization features of the 7D2 and I used it exclusively for a while but the crop factor pulled me back to the 7D2. If you crop the 5D4 file to get an equivalent 7D2 FOV you end up with an 11 meg file which is still pretty decent. The problem I have with that is my eyes still work the same through each viewfinder and having a closer eye on the subject is a big advantage for me so the 7D2 gets taken out for birding and often general nature.

Lame-Duck wrote in post #18688780
Crisp, sharp images that capture the action very nicely, Doc...well done.

Thank you. Can't wait for the games to start.

Doc

nqjudo wrote in post #18689113
We're pretty much wearing the same shoes, Mike. When I first got the 5D4 I was ecstatic that it had all the firmware and customization features of the 7D2 and I used it exclusively for a while but the crop factor pulled me back to the 7D2. If you crop the 5D4 file to get an equivalent 7D2 FOV you end up with an 11 meg file which is still pretty decent. The problem I have with that is my eyes still work the same through each viewfinder and having a closer eye on the subject is a big advantage for me so the 7D2 gets taken out for birding and often general nature.

I missed many things on my 5D3 that my 7D2 has. As you said the 5D4 made up for that. I pretty much shot with my 5D4 all of last summer with 1. 4 TC to make up for that. I never liked using a TC on my 7D2 because enjoy using all the AF point options too much. I have fun with it. I like experiment and use all the Cases and AF options.

I did dust off my 7D2 this summer and forgot how much I liked using it. I really prefer the 5D4's IQ even with the TC. Nothing wrong with the the 7D2, the 5D4 just edges it out. A slight AF speed delay which I can live with. However when shooting smaller erratic birds which is tough with anything you use the 7D2 and 100-400 II only would be a better option unless you don't mind cropping. I don't and sometimes you can can really push it and it is better than 7D2. I'm hoping the 7D3 is an improvement with that and AF. I'm torn between selling both bodies and getting a 1DX II or waiting it out for a 7D3. Also I'm seriously considering becoming a one body owner.

This is from last summer using the 5D4 and 100-400 II - no TC. Bird from the bottom left hand corner.

On the other hand this is from a bird sanctuary this summer. I've never been this close to a flying owl. I had to use my 7D2 and 100-400 II with no TC while it flew over our heads. I'd love to find this in the wild. I keep trying. All those summers practising shooting seagulls paid off.

I'd love to be on the sideline of a major sporting event some day and compare the two bodies.

digital paradise wrote in post #18689232
I missed many things on my 5D3 that my 7D2 has. As you said the 5D4 made up for that. I pretty much shot with my 5D4 all of last summer with 1. 4 TC to make up for that. I never liked using a TC on my 7D2 because enjoy using all the AF point options too much. I have fun with it. I like experiment and use all the Cases and AF options.

I did dust off my 7D2 this summer and forgot how much I liked using it. I really prefer the 5D4's IQ even with the TC. Nothing wrong with the the 7D2, the 5D4 just edges it out. A slight AF speed delay which I can live with. However when shooting smaller erratic birds which is tough with anything you use the 7D2 and 100-400 II only would be a better option unless you don't mind cropping. I don't and sometimes you can can really push it and it is better than 7D2. I'm hoping the 7D3 is an improvement with that and AF. I'm torn between selling both bodies and getting a 1DX II or waiting it out for a 7D3. Also I'm seriously considering becoming a one body owner.

This is from last summer using the 5D4 and 100-400 II - no TC. Bird from the bottom left hand corner.

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I agree completely and you're not the only one hoping for a better 7d3 sensor. That would be nice. I have a 1DXII. I highly recommend borrowing or renting before plopping down serious money for it. It is a fantastic camera but mine is rarely used unless I need something indestructible. There's something about the 1D bodies that makes me grab the 5 or 7.

digital paradise wrote in post #18689232
I missed many things on my 5D3 that my 7D2 has. As you said the 5D4 made up for that. I pretty much shot with my 5D4 all of last summer with 1. 4 TC to make up for that. I never liked using a TC on my 7D2 because enjoy using all the AF point options too much. I have fun with it. I like experiment and use all the Cases and AF options.

I did dust off my 7D2 this summer and forgot how much I liked using it. I really prefer the 5D4's IQ even with the TC. Nothing wrong with the the 7D2, the 5D4 just edges it out. A slight AF speed delay which I can live with. However when shooting smaller erratic birds which is tough with anything you use the 7D2 and 100-400 II only would be a better option unless you don't mind cropping. I don't and sometimes you can can really push it and it is better than 7D2. I'm hoping the 7D3 is an improvement with that and AF. I'm torn between selling both bodies and getting a 1DX II or waiting it out for a 7D3. Also I'm seriously considering becoming a one body owner.

This is from last summer using the 5D4 and 100-400 II - no TC. Bird from the bottom left hand corner.

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Not sure I want to be one body owner only, I love my 5DIII for what its good at but in the back of my mind Im always thinking, what if? what if my only camera malfunctions, at least with a second DSLR I have a back up. The 7DII can pretty much cover everything the 5DIII can although image quality is just slightly less, the 5DIII could do most stuff if the 7DII died, so good reasons to keep both

Im still going through unedited images while I cant be out with my cameras, dont know how I missed this one, he is beautiful

aladyforty wrote in post #18689245
Not sure I want to be one body owner only, I love my 5DIII for what its good at but in the back of my mind Im always thinking, what if? what if my only camera malfunctions, at least with a second DSLR I have a back up. The 7DII can pretty much cover everything the 5DIII can although image quality is just slightly less, the 5DIII could do most stuff if the 7DII died, so good reasons to keep both

Today I'm as young as I'll even be. As I age I'm having second thoughts bring a bunch of heavy gear. At one time you couldn't get my FF and 24-70 II out of my hands as a walk around. I have thought about a WA lens so more weight. I have always wanted a 12-24. I only took my 7D2, 18-55 and 55 -250 STM to Thailand and I thought I got great results.

Over the years I have lost interest in architectural, still life, etc shooting. So I'm considering getting something like an M5 for walk-around and a DSLR for my birding, etc. This does contradict my one body statement. I should have said one DSLR.

digital paradise wrote in post #18689253
Today I'm as young as I'll even be. As I age I'm having second thoughts bring a bunch of heavy gear. At one time you couldn't get my FF and 24-70 II out of my hands as a walk around. I have thought about a WA lens so more weight. I have always wanted a 12-24. I only took my 7D2, 18-55 and 55 -250 STM to Thailand and I thought I got great results.

Over the years I have lost interest in architectural, still life, etc shooting. So I'm considering getting something like an M5 for walk-around and a DSLR for my birding, etc. This does contradict my one body statement. I should have said one DSLR.

Oh I never carry more than one camera at a time, I have a Fuji X100 for the days when I want to go really light, I wish I could afford a Fuji X interchangeable system, I love the Fuji colours

aladyforty wrote in post #18689254
Oh I never carry more than one camera at a time, I have a Fuji X100 for the days when I want to go really light, I wish I could afford a Fuji X interchangeable system, I love the Fuji colours

Yeah it becomes a dilemma. I could live with a crop if it improves with the 7D3. I have this nice 24-70 II which is a tad wasted on on a crop. Another member at Fred Miranda who shoots Canon uses Fuji as a walk around.

Probably my best option would be a 1DX II and a decent compact walk around. The 1DX II would help with my 400 DO and 2X for BIF. That body does not have built in AF focus speed delay when a TC is on. I dread a major sell off.

aladyforty wrote in post #18689254
Oh I never carry more than one camera at a time, I have a Fuji X100 for the days when I want to go really light, I wish I could afford a Fuji X interchangeable system, I love the Fuji colours

I have both 5dmk iv and 7dii. I keep trying the mk iv, but for birds....I always seem to fall back to the 7dii. Maybe it’s a famialrity/ comfort level thing ? But that has been my experience , so far.
I think the review you may be referring to was Glenn Bartley’s review of the 5d iv. He was hoping to be blown away but didn’t think there was a significant improvement over the 7dii (after cropping and resizing).