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Nov 26, 2014 19:06 |  #2686

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This would have been a much tougher shot with the 7D since it was slower to lock on.

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Nov 26, 2014 20:16 |  #2687

gschlact wrote in post #17294131 (external link)
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I do a lot of middle school gyms as well with similar lighting.
Would you mind sharing the original file for this shot for me to have a better look?
Did you shoot jpg or raw, what NR or post processing already done?

This is the original file minus a little crop. Shot .jpg, it was probably auto-toned on upload, no other pp.

Trust me, this is the worst lit middle school gym I've ever shot in. I've been in barns with more light. :rolleyes:


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Nov 26, 2014 21:35 |  #2688

brad21 wrote in post #17295213 (external link)
This is the original file minus a little crop. Shot .jpg, it was probably auto-toned on upload, no other pp.

Trust me, this is the worst lit middle school gym I've ever shot in. I've been in barns with more light. :rolleyes:

It might be the original file with little crop, but it is significantly resized here on the web. Can you point us to a link to the full size jpg to have a look?




  
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Nov 26, 2014 23:03 |  #2689

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Nov 27, 2014 00:06 |  #2690

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Nov 27, 2014 07:34 |  #2691

Tom_D wrote in post #17294471 (external link)
Can you do a conversion to DNG with Adobe's DNG Converter (external link) and then edit the DNG files with Aperture?

Thank's Tom. Don't think I can use it, looking at it I think it needs windows system for downloading it to, and I don't have that on my computer.




  
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Nov 27, 2014 07:54 |  #2692

lammie wrote in post #17295823 (external link)
Thank's Tom. Don't think I can use it, looking at it I think it needs windows system for downloading it to, and I don't have that on my computer.

lammie - here's the link for the Mac version - http://www.adobe.com …?ftpID=5854&pro​moid=DTEHQ (external link)


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Nov 27, 2014 10:45 |  #2693

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I don't think the case matters when you go in and adjust the settings. I think each case is just a different preset of the 3 tracking variables. I lower all three to their lowest. I happened to do it on case 1 but I think you could do it under any case and the outcome would be the same.

I thought the same, but someone here stated that they talked to Canon and was told that each has different algorithm. I can't confirm this, but that's what the poster stated. I start with case 4 and and just changed tracking to -2 and it's working for me. I set the 1D4 and 1D3 to -2 also, so it was natural to set The II to -2 also.

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Nov 27, 2014 11:25 |  #2694

BodyResults wrote in post #17294499 (external link)
I don't think the case matters when you go in and adjust the settings. I think each case is just a different preset of the 3 tracking variables. I lower all three to their lowest. I happened to do it on case 1 but I think you could do it under any case and the outcome would be the same.

This is the initial assumption being made; it's the same one that I had made. However, we had a local expo the first week on November where Canon's West Coast regional representative, Genaro Arroyo, did a "Getting to know your new 7D MkII" presentation. When I asked him that exact question he said that no, each Case actually uses a totally different algorithm.

Case 1 is the tried and true, standard that we've all been using for Servo in previous bodies, but 2 - 4 actually calculate things differently because servo is doing some predictive calculations based on direction and speed of your subjects in order to maintain focus. The 3 variables are just that, but they are acting on different math in each case.


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Nov 27, 2014 11:27 |  #2695

So far this has been a much tougher camera for me to get sharp pictures out of, compared to the 5D3. I'm on my 2nd copy, and even this one required a lot of AFMA and fiddling with the settings. I'm still not 100% sure the camera is ok: I.e. when the contrast is low, it tends to miss focus a lot. But at least in good light it's getting there. Here are a few shots with the 400/5.6, at f/5.6. Shot in JPEG (I haven't started my RAW workflow yet while I'm fiddling with the camera).


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Nov 27, 2014 11:45 |  #2696

Thorsten wrote in post #17296119 (external link)
So far this has been a much tougher camera for me to get sharp pictures out of, compared to the 5D3. I'm on my 2nd copy, and even this one required a lot of AFMA and fiddling with the settings. I'm still not 100% sure the camera is ok: I.e. when the contrast is low, it tends t miss focus a lot. But at least in good light it's getting there. Here are a few shots with the 400/5.6, at f/5.6. Shot in JPEG (I haven't started my RAW workflow yet while I'm fiddling with the camera).

That sounds exactly like my 7D. :(


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Nov 27, 2014 13:38 as a reply to  @ ptcanon3ti's post |  #2697

Thorston. Nice shots. Your there. keep playing with it. Love mine.


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Nov 27, 2014 14:15 |  #2698

Thorsten wrote in post #17296119 (external link)
So far this has been a much tougher camera for me to get sharp pictures out of, compared to the 5D3. I'm on my 2nd copy, and even this one required a lot of AFMA and fiddling with the settings. I'm still not 100% sure the camera is ok: I.e. when the contrast is low, it tends to miss focus a lot. But at least in good light it's getting there. Here are a few shots with the 400/5.6, at f/5.6. Shot in JPEG (I haven't started my RAW workflow yet while I'm fiddling with the camera).

I'm still struggling with birds in flight at semi high ISOs like 1600. I'm guessing it's my Case settings since I am getting good results in AI Servo with stationary birds. I'll be trying some more tomorrow.... but that will be it for a while. I start working 6 days a week Saturday. That will continue until January so my time will be limited.


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Nov 27, 2014 14:36 |  #2699

This is just to show the AF not switching to an object in the path your are panning over. This was pretty large object, and it still did not grab the focus. Otherwise, yes its a crap photo.

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Nov 27, 2014 14:43 |  #2700

Phoenixkh wrote in post #17296382 (external link)
I'm still struggling with birds in flight at semi high ISOs like 1600. I'm guessing it's my Case settings since I am getting good results in AI Servo with stationary birds. I'll be trying some more tomorrow.... but that will be it for a while. I start working 6 days a week Saturday. That will continue until January so my time will be limited.

It could be the tracking set-up as you mention, but what focus points are you using for BIF? Did you read and follow this article? : http://learn.usa.canon​.com …elligent_viewfi​nder.shtml (external link)


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