-= 7D2 owners unite! Discuss and post photos!

Severum wrote in post #17260155
Only had a little time out with birds, but so far I'm happy with the performance compared to my 7D and 5D3.

First outing with the 7D2 + 600mm f/4L IS II + 1.4x III, Bald Eagle at Semiahmoo Spit near Blaine, WA:

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Great shots Severum!

Robert

Yes, great shots Severum!

jase1125 wrote in post #17260057
I just finished returning my 7d2. I cannot trust it to initiate focus which caused me to miss a few shots.

Did you exchange it for another 7D2? Or are you giving up on the new model?

Returning a new 7D2 is pretty unusual given all the positive remarks and buying frenzy here at POTN - funny that there has been no comment on it.

Or am I misunderstanding "returning"?

Archibald wrote in post #17261102
Did you exchange it for another 7D2? Or are you giving up on the new model?

Returning a new 7D2 is pretty unusual given all the positive remarks and buying frenzy here at POTN - funny that there has been no comment on it.

Or am I misunderstanding "returning"?

He has the 1DX. So will use that instead it sounds like. I'd keep using the 1DX too probably.

I have had the 7d2 for the last week and iam considering returning it
I have not been impressed with focusing in ai servo and the noise at high iso in my opinion is only marginally better than my 7d.
yes it has all the bells and whistles but in my opinion its not a huge improvement over my 7d as far as image quality is concerned.

The imaging, itself, isn't much of an upgrade but the 'bells and whistles' sure make taking the images easier. Bailing on something like this after a week is sort of like not learning to ride a bike because you fell off. The AF system in this thing is the same system they put in the 1Dx, which is not a simple system. I highly doubt that a week is enough time to shoot and find which of the AF modes works best for the things each of us shoot.

After spending several hours with mine yesterday and did have a number of failures as far as results, but I also know what went wrong in each case after analyzing the images. It's definitely going to take some time to get used to this thing and get it set up so that the operation is second nature again.

Working on exposure, in general, will do much more for noise control than any sensor is going to at this point. This sensor brings the crop generation within a stop or so of the full frame sensors, which ought to be more than enough for all but the most critical photo applications.

Snydremark wrote in post #17261175
The imaging, itself, isn't much of an upgrade but the 'bells and whistles' sure make taking the images easier. Bailing on something like this after a week is sort of like not learning to ride a bike because you fell off. The AF system in this thing is the same system they put in the 1Dx, which is not a simple system. I highly doubt that a week is enough time to shoot and find which of the AF modes works best for the things each of us shoot.

After spending several hours with mine yesterday and did have a number of failures as far as results, but I also know what went wrong in each case after analyzing the images. It's definitely going to take some time to get used to this thing and get it set up so that the operation is second nature again..

I believe jase1125 returned his 7D2 not because the features were complicated, but because it was malfunctioning.

I received mine Fri and shot a HS Football Playoff game on Sat with the 7d and 1dx and I m blown away by the focusing and high iso performance on the 7dII.

Motor racing with the 7d2.

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Snydremark wrote in post #17261175
The imaging, itself, isn't much of an upgrade but the 'bells and whistles' sure make taking the images easier. Bailing on something like this after a week is sort of like not learning to ride a bike because you fell off. The AF system in this thing is the same system they put in the 1Dx, which is not a simple system. I highly doubt that a week is enough time to shoot and find which of the AF modes works best for the things each of us shoot.

After spending several hours with mine yesterday and did have a number of failures as far as results, but I also know what went wrong in each case after analyzing the images. It's definitely going to take some time to get used to this thing and get it set up so that the operation is second nature again.

Working on exposure, in general, will do much more for noise control than any sensor is going to at this point. This sensor brings the crop generation within a stop or so of the full frame sensors, which ought to be more than enough for all but the most critical photo applications.

Having had a 5d3 for over a year, this has the same A/F interface, and now having a 7D2. I had a lot of issues with the 5D3 and how the A/F works, and did not like it to start with. I also found that the A/F is not perfect, but on the whole it should be better than the 7D.
My conclusions are, don't get wrapped up in the fancy A/F modes. Use the standard mode and make adjustments one parameter at a time.
I found it takes time to get use to it, similar to going from a 40D/50D to a 7D (some may not agree with this, just what I found).

Well... this is a bit concerning...

I am doing a focus chart test right now, on a tripod, mirror lockup/timer.
My 60D seems to get the same results in One shot vs. Live View. Although maybe it's a very tiny bit off.

But on the 7D II, Live View struggles alot more for some reason. Out of like 5 tries in a row, maybe 1-2 times it's actually properly in focus on my Tamron. Unless it just doesn't like it.

When trying to do One Shot focus with the Mark II, often the images were very soft/outta focus.

So I set the AF Fine Tune to +20 on the telephoto end, and now it looks very close to good.
But why would the Mark II need +20, and my 60D gets about the same results as is?? : \

Going to test my Canon 70-200 F/4 L IS on there now.

Kickflipkid687 wrote in post #17261253
But why would the Mark II need +20, and my 60D gets about the same results as is?? : \

http://www.lensrentals​.com …s-is-soft-and-other-myths

Archibald wrote in post #17261180
I believe jase1125 returned his 7D2 not because the features were complicated, but because it was malfunctioning.

I was responding to jingler's post rather than jase; it just had a tone of having pushed a few buttons and decided it wasn't working right.

@Klystron: Totally agreed with your comment on moving from 40/50D to 7D. Also, even though the menus are the same, the underlying algorithms for the AF modes in the 1Dx/7DII are different than the ones in the 5DIII, according to the Canon rep giving an intro seminar to the 7DII yesterday.

tdodd wrote in post #17261296
http://www.lensrentals​.com …s-is-soft-and-other-myths

Link without comment ignored.

Archibald wrote in post #17261311
Link without comment ignored.

OK. Your choice. It's a good explanation of the need for AF microadjustment and why it differs from body to body, lens to lens and combinations of each. It's also been doing the rounds for years, so should not be news to anybody. I just posted as a reminder.