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May 04, 2015 23:25 |  #241

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. . . why would you photograph kids with no reason?

You wouldn't. You don't photograph anything without a reason. Any answer to the "why" question will be the reason, at least for the person who answers.

Here's the reason some photographers have. If you're doing street photography and kids are there, they may get into your shots. Perhaps a child or a group of children is doing something interesting. Children make as good subjects for urban candids as adults do--sometimes better, because they're more spontaneous. Sometimes a child is in a scene that you can make a good composition of, or a study in light and shadow.

In other words, there are artistic reasons and human-interest reasons.

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As long as we keep justifying something that doesnt need justification our rights erode?

I'm of two minds about this. If no one justifies it, the accusers will say "See? These so-called photographers can't give a reason because they really are perverts and they don't want to say so."


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May 04, 2015 23:46 |  #242

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I would have to ask why you are taking the photos. ... but why would you photograph kids

... to many perverts out there...

This thread is getting ridiculous, and this post is at the top of the heap. Have you forgotten so much of human history that all you remember of "journalism" is "To catch a pedophile" ?

You take photos of children because they are part of the world we live. they are to some, to many, the most important part of the world we live in. You take the photos because like a sunset or a blooming flower they are moving and beautiful. Or because they are innocent and delicate.


None of these images are mine, these are all available via Google Image search, and copyright is that of the photographers, Some of them are quite famous, likely recognizable to someone that isn't to closed up in their mothers basement looking at "the dark internet" all day,.

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May 04, 2015 23:50 |  #243

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This thread is getting ridiculous, and this post is at the top of the heap. Have you forgotten so much of human history that all you remember of "journalism" is "To catch a pedophile" ?

You take photos of children because they are part of the world we live. they are to some, to many, the most important part of the world we live in. You take the photos because like a sunset or a blooming flower they are moving and beautiful. Or because they are innocent and delicate.

None of these images are mine, these are all available via Google Image search, and copyright is that of the photographers, but where would the world be without images like these?

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May 04, 2015 23:55 |  #244

And these are mine...

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There I did it, I am clearly a subspecies that needs to be jailed and run through the ringer by Chris Hansen !

For heavens sake people get a grip! Maybe those that see monsters around every corner do so because that's what's close to home?

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May 05, 2015 00:13 |  #245

This young man is Henry;

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When i was in Namibia, camping along the Okavango river, he took a few of us to find some hippos, and other local wildlife. As it turned out, we came up pretty empty handed for hippos that day, but I was able to get some very nice shots of some of the bird life in that area,

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...and a few shots of Henry and his little sister (about two and yet being carried around by Henry through the mud and fields unattended by adults)

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His older sisters were pretty amazed to hear about the hole trip,.

In return for his curiosity and kindness, Henry and his family received a nice little gift that likely was more Rand than they'd get in some weeks normally.

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May 05, 2015 11:49 |  #246

Henry is topless. Clearly you have an issue. To jail with you, sir! You will be held until such time as we can burn you at the stake! Or attempt to publicly ridicule you. Whichever you deem worse. [/sarcasm]




  
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May 05, 2015 16:57 |  #247

First off - I'm not a parent. Never wanted children, so feel free to tell me I don't understand.

but this thread...jesus.


the rampant paranoia of those with kids who seem to think anyone other than themselves taking photos of their kids in a public place is justification to assault someone....

look. I get people want to be protective of their children, but how are your children being exploited or taken advantage of if someone's taking a photo of them playing in a park. How is this going to hurt your child?

If I'm out with the camera and I see a child learning to fly a kite with his parents, I actually now have to wonder if it's worth dealing with irrational parents to get a photo of something I'd consider to be an interesting and touching moment. How messed up is that?

The people suggesting they'd confront someone for taking a photo, what do you actually think is going to happen with that photo that you need to do this?

Many tremendous photos have been taking showing the expressions on a child's face, but I wonder how many of those had parents charging off after the photographer.

People seem to assume the worst of anyone holding a camera when it comes to a child.


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May 05, 2015 17:16 |  #248

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First off - I'm not a parent. Never wanted children, so feel free to tell me I don't understand.

but this thread...jesus.


the rampant paranoia of those with kids who seem to think anyone other than themselves taking photos of their kids in a public place is justification to assault someone....

look. I get people want to be protective of their children, but how are your children being exploited or taken advantage of if someone's taking a photo of them playing in a park. How is this going to hurt your child?

If I'm out with the camera and I see a child learning to fly a kite with his parents, I actually now have to wonder if it's worth dealing with irrational parents to get a photo of something I'd consider to be an interesting and touching moment. How messed up is that?

The people suggesting they'd confront someone for taking a photo, what do you actually think is going to happen with that photo that you need to do this?

Many tremendous photos have been taking showing the expressions on a child's face, but I wonder how many of those had parents charging off after the photographer.

People seem to assume the worst of anyone holding a camera when it comes to a child.

The most awesome part of it all is that most of the people saying they would confront somebody for taking a picture of their child probably post pictures of their child all over Facebook. While Facebook has done a lot to help with privacy and security issues regarding users posts (if they choose to make them private), when you put a picture on the internet, you have lost all control of it. There's no telling what kind of nasty, mean perverts are getting their jolly's with those pictures. But yet, if I take a picture of their child, they're going to assault me.

I have three daughters. I love my daughters and would do anything to protect them. However, I just don't see the harm in taking a picture. If you are taking street candids, I hope my kids interest you enough to capture their life.

I've also gotten those looks when at the park with my kids. Sometimes, when I don't even have the camera. A guy at the park, with three little (relatively speaking) girls and everyone automatically assumes that I'm using my kids to pick up moms, which makes me a scumbag, or that I am perving on other kids and I must molest my girls at home. Why can't I just be a dad with his kids?

I think it's television and internet. All of the stuff you see now, about abductions and sexual predation isn't new. It's just that now you know about it and it's in your face, so that's all people think about.




  
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May 05, 2015 17:23 |  #249

Here's a picture of all three of my girls. None of you pervs look at it. If you look at it, I'll turn on my caps lock key and slap you with an IRC trout.

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May 05, 2015 18:42 |  #250

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Here's a picture of all three of my girls. None of you pervs look at it. If you look at it, I'll turn on my caps lock key and slap you with an IRC trout.

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You have lovely daughters, should I seek therapy?




  
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May 05, 2015 20:03 |  #251

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You have lovely daughters, should I seek therapy?

OH. MY. GOD. YOU PERV!

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May 05, 2015 20:04 |  #252

I mean... Thanks!




  
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May 05, 2015 20:06 |  #253

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I think it's television and internet. All of the stuff you see now, about abductions and sexual predation isn't new. It's just that now you know about it and it's in your face, so that's all people think about.

It also seems like an annex of helicopter parenting.


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May 06, 2015 12:50 |  #254

I'm still interested to hear the response to my post from any of the parents who said they would confront someone. Honest question.


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and it continues...


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