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At what aperture are most of your landscape shots?

 
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Oct 14, 2014 00:31 |  #31

garbidz wrote in post #17207172 (external link)
The focal length of the iPhone camera is about 4 mm.
Is this an answer?

I don't want to get goofy here, but, hmm, comparing an iPhone with a DSLR?....:)


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Oct 16, 2014 16:29 |  #32

I usually find myself f8-f16 depending on how much foreground there is. I like to shoot low and wide so I'm very often dealing with the limits of DOF.


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Oct 16, 2014 16:51 |  #33

Anywhere from f/1.4 to f/16, but usually in the neighborhood of f/8 and f/11.


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Nov 01, 2014 11:40 |  #34

Anywhere from wide open to tiny aperture. The 17-40 actually makes 16-pointy sunstars beyond about f/11 which is nice. During the day I would like to use f/7.1 (ish) or where ever the lens is sharpest. I dont usually run into DOF problems in landscapes as I use wide angles. At night I will adjust aperture (usually close it down!) to get the shutter speed I want.

About what your money actually buys for landscape lenses... There are a number of things expensive lenses do better. Build quality is generally better with more expensive lenses. Some offer weather protection which means you can take shots in a drizzle. Wouldn't recommend staying out in a monsoon.

Optics tend to be better as well. Sharpness can be better which is more important if you have a high megapixel body. Crop bodies are worse in this regard, as their photosites are even smaller.
Autofocus in dim light is far better on my 17-40L than on the 30mm Art. In London the 30mm no longer focussed on anything while the 17-40 wasn't bothered by much.
Finally, I expect the aperture to be better on an expensive lens. The maximum aperture might be bigger (f/2.8 rather than f/4), there might be more aperture blades (nicer out of focus highlights and more points on your sunstars, although odd numbers seem to be better than even ones), or you might be able to close your aperture down more. The 30mm Art stops down to f/16, the 17-40mm L to f/22. I've used a 24-105L which went down to f/45.
Being able to stop down your aperture more can be very useful if you want to take long expose shots, but that does introduce diffraction; a loss of sharpness.


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Nov 01, 2014 12:07 |  #35

DoughnutPhoto wrote in post #17245682 (external link)
Anywhere from wide open to tiny aperture. The 17-40 actually makes 16-pointy sunstars beyond about f/11 which is nice. During the day I would like to use f/7.1 (ish) or where ever the lens is sharpest. I dont usually run into DOF problems in landscapes as I use wide angles. At night I will adjust aperture (usually close it down!) to get the shutter speed I want.

About what your money actually buys for landscape lenses... There are a number of things expensive lenses do better. Build quality is generally better with more expensive lenses. Some offer weather protection which means you can take shots in a drizzle. Wouldn't recommend staying out in a monsoon.

Optics tend to be better as well. Sharpness can be better which is more important if you have a high megapixel body. Crop bodies are worse in this regard, as their photosites are even smaller.
Autofocus in dim light is far better on my 17-40L than on the 30mm Art. In London the 30mm no longer focussed on anything while the 17-40 wasn't bothered by much.
Finally, I expect the aperture to be better on an expensive lens. The maximum aperture might be bigger (f/2.8 rather than f/4), there might be more aperture blades (nicer out of focus highlights and more points on your sunstars, although odd numbers seem to be better than even ones), or you might be able to close your aperture down more. The 30mm Art stops down to f/16, the 17-40mm L to f/22. I've used a 24-105L which went down to f/45.
Being able to stop down your aperture more can be very useful if you want to take long expose shots, but that does introduce diffraction; a loss of sharpness.

That should be 14 points. Even # of aperture blades= even stars/ odd # = double the blade #(7 blade-14 stars 8 blade-8 stars)...16 points is impossible, unless the lens has 16 aperture blades. ;)


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Nov 01, 2014 18:57 |  #36

Oops. I thought I had 8 aperture blades, but I looked it up and it has 7. So yes, that's 14 points on the sunstars. Hey, I could tell it was way more than 8 points ;).


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Nov 02, 2014 10:39 |  #37

DoughnutPhoto wrote in post #17245682 (external link)
Anywhere from wide open to tiny aperture. ...........deleted ........

Yes that's the aperture range available to all of us. But if you were to graph your pictures taken (as I discussed in a previous post) where would most of them fall?

That's the information I think the OP was intending to bring up and thats what is of interest to me in this thread.


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Dec 03, 2014 04:34 |  #38

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17173648 (external link)
Wow, Walt . . . according to that graph, you took 4 pictures last year at a focal length of 6 millimeters! I didn't know they even had lenses that wide.

1/6 shutter speed :)

shortest focal length was 28mm




  
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Dec 03, 2014 11:21 |  #39

I try to stay near to (or just above) the Diffraction Limited Aperture for landscapes; this depends on the sensor (more correctly pixel size). I figure choosing this aperture gives me maximum Depth of Field without substantial loss of sharpness due to diffraction.

For my 5D3 and 1D4 I like to use f/8 or f/11 (the DLAs are f/10.1 and 9.1 respectively). I don't mind using f/16, especially on the 5D3.

One of reasons I liked my 1D3 was the massive pixels it had and therefore the high DLA of 11.5.

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Dec 03, 2014 20:07 |  #40

Lately f11 - f16.




  
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Dec 03, 2014 20:11 |  #41

F11 mostly but have been using f22 at night for nice flares around lights and such.


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Dec 03, 2014 21:00 |  #42

F8-F11 for me


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Dec 03, 2014 21:32 |  #43

f7 - f16, but i'm hardly a landscape photographer. i find i generally cheat lower if i'm trying to extend shutter speed in lieu of an ND filter, but that seems like a pretty bad reason.




  
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Dec 07, 2014 09:10 |  #44

I usually don't go higher than f/11. So, generally it probably falls somewhere between f/8 - f/11.


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Dec 08, 2014 10:06 |  #45

Usually f11 to f16 with my Zeiss Contax 35-135mm


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