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A 2-3 lens kit for Canon 5D3

 
Julie ­ G.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:09 |  #1

I'm starting from scratch, again! This is ultimately my choice, but I wanted to get some thoughts about a 2-3 lens kit for my use.

Camera: Canon 5D3
Types of Photography: Landscapes (mountain scenes), Portraits and general photography (vacations, birthdays etc).
Types of lenses: Wide angle + Normal + Telezoom
Specific lenses I've been considering: Canon 70-200 F2.8L (Non-IS), Sigma 35A, Sigma 50A, a wide-angle?
Budget: 1800-2200$ (used lenses)

I'm usually taking photos outdoors (with exception of a few birthdays)

I'm pretty sure I'm getting the 70-200 for nature and portraits (and sports), but what I'm unsure of is the lower end. And I won't be using the 70-200 indoors. For indoor use I want something < F1.4.

Is the Sigma 35A wide enough for landscapes and mountains scenes? Or is it too tight. The reason I though of the 35A was because might be wide enough for landscapes, but not too wide for for portraits and general photography indoors = versatile. But on the flip side I've had trouble framing with a 35mm before.

Is the Sigma 50A too alike 70mm? The reason I though of the 50A is because it's a good, versatile, F1.4 (for thin DoF and indoor use) etc. I can use it for nature and general photography, portraits. But if I choose the Sigma 50A, I'll need a wide-angle. Which? And not expensive like the 16-35L, 14L and 24L.

I already have the Canon 50mm F1.8 II.

Thoughts? Tips? Any input is appreciated!




  
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Sep 25, 2014 05:52 |  #2
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Canon EF 16-35L IS
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Sep 25, 2014 06:05 |  #3

Abu Mahendra wrote in post #17176535 (external link)
Canon EF 16-35L IS
Sigma 50 Art
Canon EF 70-200L F/4 IS

Thanks! The 16-35 is too expensive as I can't buy it used, and as for the 70-200; I initially thought the I'd rather have F2.8 than IS, now I'm not sure...

Let me clarify the alternatives I've been thinking of:
1) Cheap wide-angle - Sigma 50A - Canon 70-200 F2.8 L Non-IS
2) Sigma 35A - Canon 70-200 F2.8 L Non-IS (missing a normal? 35 not wide enough?)

I'm thinking option no. 2 might be best, although I'm unsure if 35mm wide enough. I do have the Canon 50mm F1.8 II I could use as a "normal" I save up some more money...




  
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Sep 25, 2014 06:11 |  #4
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Two lens kit? With those goals? Not possible. Three forces you into zooms.
My ideal would be:
16-35 IS
24L II
35 IS
100 f/2
70-200 2.8L II


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Sep 25, 2014 06:31 |  #5

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17176558 (external link)
Two lens kit? With those goals? Not possible. Three forces you into zooms.
My ideal would be:
16-35 IS
24L II
35 IS
100 f/2
70-200 2.8L II

Not impossible, and I don't really need the most expensive ones either (I have a bit experience in photography, but I'm not a pro and I don't work as a photographer). I'm not hiking with 5 lenses!

I don't need the 24L II AND the 16-35 IS AND the 35 IS, they overlap, either one is good.
I don't need the 100 F2 AND the 70-200 F2.8L II, they overlap, either one is good.

I need a wide or "wide-ish" lens and a tele, and preferably a normal.

There is something called "good enough"...




  
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Sep 25, 2014 06:52 |  #6

I'd suggest the 70-200F4 IS and the 17-40 f4. (yea, the newer 16-35F4 has better IQ but the 17-40 is readily available second hand at good prices).

You already have the 50 f1.8ii.

The above is good 3 lens setup.


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Sep 25, 2014 06:57 |  #7

shocolite wrote in post #17176613 (external link)
I'd suggest the 70-200F4 IS and the 17-40 f4. (yea, the newer 16-35F4 has better IQ but the 17-40 is readily available second hand at good prices).

You already have the 50 f1.8ii.

The above is good 3 lens setup.

Thanks, I'll consider it! if you don't mind, or my head might explode, why 70-200 F4 IS over F2.8 non-IS? Is the F4IS weather proof and the 2.8 not? If so I agree on the F4 IS (and it's lighter..)




  
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Sep 25, 2014 07:08 as a reply to  @ Julie G.'s post |  #8

you should of said what your budget was and then we could try to fit stuff in for your budget

That being said

best way to go is F/2.8

16-35, 24-70, 70-200

or F/4

17-40, 24-105, 70-200


these zooms let you photography just about anything

or else buy primes

24 or 35

50,85, 135.... thats your choices


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Sep 25, 2014 07:26 |  #9

umphotography wrote in post #17176634 (external link)
you should of said what your budget was and then we could try to fit stuff in for your budget

That being said

best way to go is F/2.8

16-35, 24-70, 70-200

or F/4

17-40, 24-105, 70-200


these zooms let you photography just about anything

or else buy primes

24 or 35

50,85, 135.... thats your choices

Budget: 1800-2200 usd, rather less than more. I'm Norwegian so the prices might be a bit different. I'm buying the lenses used.




  
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Sep 25, 2014 07:32 |  #10
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This kit of yours is for hiking?




  
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Sep 25, 2014 07:33 |  #11

I have to mirror what Shocolite says. I have the 70-200 F4 IS L, the 17-40 F4 L, and the Sigma 35 1.4A - And I like it. I have other lenses for particular other instances (work). But for the photography I enjoy - similar subject matter to what you described - I always reach for that combination. I had the funds for the 70-200 2.8II but could not do it... the 70-200 F4 IS is so much lighter. I got the 17-40 way before the 16-35 F4 was being discussed and I am happy with it. Not sharp in the corners, but a fantastic lens for the money.

I find that I sometimes use the IS on the 70-200. I don't need it often, but it has been the difference between sharp and blurry enough times that I never feel I should have gotten the 2.8, non-IS. At 200mm F4 separates subject from background as much as my tastes desire...

The Sigma 35 1.4 has been a blessing for me. It stays on my camera ~60% of the time. I find it to be a very versatile lens. I also shoot a lot of landscape with my 70-200, so I don't see how the Sigma 35 could not work for the same...

I also have a 67 and 77mm kaesemann cpl that I consider just as important as my lenses...

EDIT: I have the 5D mkIII


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Sep 25, 2014 07:38 |  #12

Oh, and almost all of the recent photos posted here are from the three lenses I recommended: https://www.flickr.com​/photos/danielmwbuehle​r/ (external link)


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Sep 25, 2014 07:51 |  #13

Julie G. wrote in post #17176646 (external link)
Budget: 1800-2200 usd, rather less than more. I'm Norwegian so the prices might be a bit different. I'm buying the lenses used.

The 70 to 200 is about 1000.00 us used.
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1399146

Leaves you 800.00 to 1200.00 dollars left for the other lens or lenses.


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Sep 25, 2014 08:00 |  #14

Thanks for all the help! It's been great! Sorry for the lack of information...

I'm getting the 70-200 F4 IS (as it's weather sealed) and the Sigma 35A first. If I don't feel the 35 is wide enough then I'll get the 17-40, or if it is wide enough I'll buy the Sigma 50A next year (not much hiking left this year).

I'll use this equipment for on hiking trips 50% of the time, but I might only bring 2 lenses (I've had no problems in the past hiking with a big dslr, but we'll see).

If I have too many lenses, many won't be used, that's my experience. I might be going against the grain by having less lenses (and not the most expensive ones), but I've made so many mistakes in the past by getting the "top-of-the-line" equipment and let's say I've learned some things since ;) (The 5D3 is not overdoing it, noooope! :P)




  
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Sep 25, 2014 08:10 |  #15
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For hiking, I'd go a lot lighter:
M & 11-22 IS
and
xx0d body & 55-250STM.
1,500 grams




  
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