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THE U.S. FOREST SERVICE WANTS TO FINE YOU $1,000 FOR TAKING PICTURES IN THE FOREST

 
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Sep 25, 2014 21:23 |  #1

http://www.esquire.com …-the-forest?src=soc_fcbks (external link)


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Sep 25, 2014 21:57 |  #2

Even though it appears this rule applies only to media pros and not your average citizen hiker, it's still stupidity writ large. Photojournalists are taxpayers, too. Taxpayers whose taxes help pay the salaries of the bozos who crafted this rule.


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Sep 25, 2014 21:58 |  #3

Wow. That's crazy. Thanks for sharing


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Sep 25, 2014 22:21 |  #4
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This country is getting stupid by the minute...hehehe... I don't live near to any of the major national parks and so.....not sure if I can or should do anything about it...


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Sep 25, 2014 22:40 |  #5

M_Six wrote in post #17178071 (external link)
Even though it appears this rule applies only to media pros and not your average citizen hiker, it's still stupidity writ large. Photojournalists are taxpayers, too. Taxpayers whose taxes help pay the salaries of the bozos who crafted this rule.

There are a lot more of us who go to the parks to enjoy them without tripping over people filming. Those "bozos" made the rules to protect the parks for us.

And most media is getting the rules 100% wrong as mentioned in the other thread about this: https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1399506


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Sep 25, 2014 22:42 |  #6

That is horrifying. It is incomprehensibile to me. Is this just in the proposal stage, or is it in effect.


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Sep 25, 2014 23:03 |  #7

Everybody calm down. From the other thread:

tandemhearts wrote in post #17176657 (external link)
Forest Service Wildernesses are not National Parks.
It specifically excludes "noncommercial still photography".


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Sep 25, 2014 23:13 |  #8

PhotosGuy wrote in post #17178136 (external link)
Everybody calm down. From the other thread:

Seems like a lot of misinformation going on.

From what I've been able to gather so far, "non-commercial still photography" also applies to the landscape photographer who may eventually sell prints of his photos, right?

Calming down now.... :)


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Sep 26, 2014 00:57 |  #9

I hope that folks understand that this law only applies to Designated Wilderness Areas, not the non-designated portions of national forests, and not the non-designated portions national parks. The headline is really mis-information, as it leads people to believe that you won't be allowed to take photos in National Forests, which is not the case at all.


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Sep 26, 2014 05:13 |  #10

Tom Reichner wrote in post #17178217 (external link)
I hope that folks understand that this law only applies to Designated Wilderness Areas, not the non-designated portions of national forests, and not the non-designated portions national parks. The headline is really mis-information, as it leads people to believe that you won't be allowed to take photos in National Forests, which is not the case at all.

right but what happens when it extends to national parks




  
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Sep 26, 2014 06:26 |  #11

watt100 wrote in post #17178408 (external link)
right but what happens when it extends to national parks

The rule only applies to commercial filming, the article everyone is talking about did a horrible job of presenting facts (kinda' seems like the author wanted to stir up a hornets nest).

Someone posted a rate schedule from the regulation, the fee varies by the size of the crew (which makes sense because a larger filming crew will have a bigger impact).

AND if you still are pissed off about the proposed regulation I put a link in the other thread where you can submit comments to the Park Service to consider before the regulation is implemented.




  
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Sep 26, 2014 07:26 |  #12

I understand why vandals cut their names on trees with capitals. But I don't know why it is needed here.


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Sep 26, 2014 07:31 |  #13

watt100 wrote in post #17178408 (external link)
right but what happens when it extends to national parks

What makes you think it will?




  
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Sep 26, 2014 07:56 as a reply to  @ kf095's post |  #14

The idea of the permit process is to make sure that the commercial crew has the proper insurance and to determine to what extent it might interfere with the public. Also to clean up after yourself. You can't film in NYC without a permit. While wilderness areas don't have a lot of people around, a large crew can have an impact on the ecological balance. Wilderness areas are declared as such in order to preserve the wilderness.


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Sep 26, 2014 08:15 |  #15

joedlh wrote in post #17178576 (external link)
The idea of the permit process is to make sure that the commercial crew has the proper insurance and to determine to what extent it might interfere with the public. Also to clean up after yourself.

Hasn't that permit process for commercial shoots been in place for National Parks for years? I don't see what the problem is.




  
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