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Apr 17, 2001 13:34 |  #16

Have been lurking as a "reader" for a while - most useful forum! Just switched to digital (G1, natch) and am blown away by the possibilities.

I've also found a real gem for thumbnails-to-Web pages: THUMBER from http://members.tripod.​com/~tawba/thumber.htm (external link)

The program's strength is it's dead easy interface for organizing thumbnails into Web pages, linking them to full size originals, complete with selective EXIF info, all with a few clicks. The page is then a cinch to customize in any HTML editor. Also does simple, lossless tranforms retaining all EXIF info.

Did a trial of camera and THUMBER yesterday, example at http://www.netidea.com​/~teekay/thumbs/kiteda​y.htm (external link)

The images are nothing great - I was just testing settings under high contrast conditions.

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Apr 17, 2001 15:13 |  #17

I also use Thumber, and am very happy with it as long as I stick with JPEG. It does not handle CRW or TIFF. With JPEG, though, it is very functional. Exports EXIF as text or csv; I use csv to build Excel spreadsheets of image directory data. Thumber also creates html files to look at your photos, and has a configurable rename function. This combination, while not "professional" standard, is very convenient for maintaining a personal directory. I plan to archive it on CDR when my zip disk fills up. Too bad it does not deal with TIFF and its image info, I have to do that manually. When I shoot RAW, I save the image info using Chris Breeze downloader, make a JPEG copy for Thumber to display, and enter the data manually.




  
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Apr 18, 2001 09:37 |  #18

I came across an excellent EXIF browser at

http://members.nbci.co​m.../mkowalski.1/index​.html (external link)

It will display all the photo and camera info, display thumnails and a whole lot more that I have not explored yet. A relatively small file for downloading. Oh and did I mention that it is lightning fast.

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Apr 18, 2001 10:23 |  #19

Leo:

I fixed your link. Does it work with CRW files?

Leo R wrote:
I came across an excellent EXIF browser at
http://members.nbci.co​m/mkowalski.1/index.ht​ml (external link)




  
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Apr 18, 2001 16:26 |  #20

John - NJ wrote:
Leo:

I fixed your link. Does it work with CRW files?

Yes it works with Canon CRW files as well as jpeg and files already converted from crw to tiff or bitmap. You can toggle between a window that lists all the files in a folder along with the info about the picture eg camera, shooting mode, exposure, lens focal length, flash on or off, etc etc and a window of thumbnails. Clicking on a thumbnail gives a full screen view or other sizes by a zoom + or-. There are other features that I have not used yet.

The detailed file listings seem to be in a spreadsheet format and clicking on a column heading causes the list to be resorted by that heading-eg clicking on the exposure time heading, sorts the list by shutter speed used.

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Apr 24, 2001 17:02 |  #21

So, I'm totally confused now! Too many programs for viewing images. But I know what my question is... (damn it)

Reading all this thumbnail stuff, am I right in thinking that there's a 640x480 pixel version of the image inside the CRW file? So when I download an image from my CF card, via my MicroTech USB reader I get:

CRW_1055.CRW containing RAW image data and 640x480 JPG image, and
CRW_1055.THM containing JPG image possibly 120x180 or smaller.

There's EXIF data somewhere here, too, but I don't know where.

I currently use ACDSee to view the THM files to see if any photos are just so bad I don't want to deal with them. Then I convert all remaining images into TIFFS, view them, then delete those I find to be out of focus, or blurred, or otherwise flawed or uninteresting.

I think it would be nice to get that 640x480 JPG out of the *.CRW file and use that to make more informed decisions.

IF Im right, is there a way to get access to that larger thumb image?

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Apr 24, 2001 18:44 |  #22

See the thread on YARC in this section. If you have a Windows PC, you can use it to automatically retrieve the jpg thumbs with exif. I use it and then use the Kowalski Exif Viewer or Max Lyons Thumber to view the exif and thumbnails.




  
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