Do we know if the guy admitted to doing it?
For the reason I mentioned, if he didn't admit it, they're going to have a difficult time proving he did it...
RoadDog Goldmember More info | Oct 03, 2014 09:22 | #16 Do we know if the guy admitted to doing it? Just shut up and smile...
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Oct 03, 2014 09:23 | #17 Drones are going to be a huge source of legal fighting in the future. One of these days a drone will be flying over a house or park and crash, killing a kid..... Then what? Canon R6M2
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Luckless Goldmember 3,064 posts Likes: 189 Joined Mar 2012 Location: PEI, Canada More info | Oct 03, 2014 09:24 | #18 delta0014 wrote in post #17191638 Drones are going to be a huge source of legal fighting in the future. One of these days a drone will be flying over a house or park and crash, killing a kid..... Then what? Then you treat it the same as someone flying a plane or driving a car. You investigate, determine if there was any fault, and proceed accordingly. Road Dog wrote in post #17191636 Do we know if the guy admitted to doing it? For the reason I mentioned, if he didn't admit it, they're going to have a difficult time proving he did it... That is what juries are for if it comes to trial: Man was found with a recently fired shotgun in the area the witness heard the shots from (A residential area by the sounds of things) and a drone had just recently been taken down by pellets from a shotgun. Canon EOS 7D | EF 28 f/1.8 | EF 85 f/1.8 | EF 70-200 f/4L | EF-S 17-55 | Sigma 150-500
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Oct 03, 2014 09:28 | #19 Luckless wrote in post #17191621 And we are keeping things in context: He is facing a fine and a few days/months in jail, rather than a year or more... He discharged a firearm in a violent and malicious act, and should be punished as such. The willfully destroyed someone's property, apparently over land he didn't own, and such actions should not be tolerated. Agreed. A few days in a cell should do him well. Sony A7ii [Sony FE 16-35mm f/4] [Sony FE 28-70mm] [Rokinon 135mm F2] [Sony 50mm 1.8]
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Oct 03, 2014 09:35 | #20 Permanent banRoad Dog wrote in post #17191574 Why would you want to see that happen? A concealed weapon had absolutely nothing to do with this incident. If the guy intentionally drove a golf cart into a lake, would you want him to forfeit the family sedan? He had demonstrated either ignorance or intentional neglect of firearms laws. He should not be allowed to carry a gun in public until he proves otherwise. Period. elitejp wrote in post #17191582 I agree with most of your points for fining him but like im saying he wasnt aiming the gun at a person and no one here can factually say that he is the type of person who would point the gun at a person. And even if he was....HE DIDNT. So keeping it in context and innocent until guilty the guys offense was shooting down a drone....not shooting a person, not endangering someones life, not threatening someones life. So lets look at what he did rather than going on the deep end and making things up. If he shot a person holding a camera, even if the person had ill intents while taking photos, I would completely agree that jail time,confiscation of all weapons etc be sentenced on him Road Dog wrote in post #17191588 I'd like to know how they're going to prove that this guy fired the shot that took the drone down. A shotgun isn't like, say, a pistol. There's no way to forensically match the pellets from a shotgun shell to the shotgun that fired them... If you believe that, I've got some ocean-front property in Montana you'd just love. WARNING: I often dispense advice in fields I know little about!
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TRFARMS Hatchling 3 posts Joined Apr 2013 More info | Oct 04, 2014 17:07 | #21 I have a hunch that signal jammers for the frequencies these drones use are going to become rather popular.
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Luckless Goldmember 3,064 posts Likes: 189 Joined Mar 2012 Location: PEI, Canada More info | Oct 04, 2014 18:14 | #22 TRFARMS wrote in post #17193786 I have a hunch that signal jammers for the frequencies these drones use are going to become rather popular. And are already generally illegal and dead simple to locate... Canon EOS 7D | EF 28 f/1.8 | EF 85 f/1.8 | EF 70-200 f/4L | EF-S 17-55 | Sigma 150-500
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Oct 06, 2014 09:05 | #23 I thought a drone was something that dropped bombs on Iraq? http://natureimmortal.blogspot.com
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Luckless Goldmember 3,064 posts Likes: 189 Joined Mar 2012 Location: PEI, Canada More info | Oct 06, 2014 09:22 | #24 They use Jets to drop bombs too... Guess you couldn't possibly book a flight on something called a jet aircraft to travel between cities. Canon EOS 7D | EF 28 f/1.8 | EF 85 f/1.8 | EF 70-200 f/4L | EF-S 17-55 | Sigma 150-500
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RoadDog Goldmember More info | Oct 13, 2014 09:37 | #25 Luckless wrote in post #17191642 That is what juries are for if it comes to trial: Man was found with a recently fired shotgun in the area the witness heard the shots from (A residential area by the sounds of things) and a drone had just recently been taken down by pellets from a shotgun. Care to offer a reasonable argument most juries might be willing to believe? Given that the only evidence is a recently fired shotgun, I wouldn't bother. Just shut up and smile...
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RoadDog Goldmember More info | Oct 13, 2014 09:55 | #26 GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17191662 He had demonstrated either ignorance or intentional neglect of firearms laws. He should not be allowed to carry a gun in public until he proves otherwise. Period. Do you ever drive over the speed limit? The drone was carrying a camera. Um... So what? A recently fired shotgun, found on location by the police. Pellets matching those in other ammunition he has on hand. Actually, the article states that there were "holes that resembled the pellets". Now, I admit that it's a poorly worded sentence, but it doesn't convince me that they have the pellets and, in fact, I would be surprised if the did... Statements from neighbors and bystanders. Really? Where are those? I must've missed them when I read the OP. Surely you can point those out to me... His own admission. Do we know if he admitted it? If he did, slam him. I have no problem with that. If he didn't, though, I think a prosecutor would have, at best, a very difficult time prosecuting this... A chimp could get a prosecution in this case. Um, a "prosecution"? Just shut up and smile...
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watt100 Cream of the Crop 14,021 posts Likes: 34 Joined Jun 2008 More info | Oct 13, 2014 12:37 | #27 Road Dog wrote in post #17210221 Given that the only evidence is a recently fired shotgun, I wouldn't bother. What you're describing is circumstantial evidence. Unless you can physically link that shotgun to the drone, reasonable doubt will likely exist. Dude walks... unless the drone took one last pic of the shooter
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tkbslc Cream of the Crop 24,604 posts Likes: 45 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Utah, USA More info | Oct 13, 2014 12:56 | #28 I don't think he denied it. I think he did in on purpose to make a statement about privacy. His defense will be that the device was violating his rights and it was a form of self defense. Taylor
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CyberDyneSystems Admin (type T-2000) More info | Oct 13, 2014 14:26 | #30 Funny how times have changed. It was likely only just over a year ago that I first heard about lawmakers discussing laws to legalize private use of drones. GEAR LIST
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