Peter Read Miller on Canon 7D Mark II

"It's up there with the 1Dx..."

http://youtu.be/dW9-8kBcx1I

No wonder so many are confused about the crop factor. I agreed with everything he said until he propagates how the 7D2 will turn their 70-200 f2.8 lens into a 320 f2.8 lens, and this is what he tells aspiring photographers that attend his seminars. I guess it's probably easier to just say that than to get into all the nitty gritty we do here.

I have no doubt that the 7D2 will be nearly indistinguishable in its AF capabilities over the 1DX. This is the 2nd pro shooter that has now said this.

In his defense he did initialy l say it's like putting a 1.6 extenderror on a FF camera

what a camera !
we can see it on the net and we can't touch it or use it until now

Gaarryy wrote in post #17197101
In his defense he did initialy l say it's like putting a 1.6 extenderror on a FF camera

Putting a 1.6 extender on a FF changes the lens to an f4 lens, which he does state, and thus isn't a good answer either.

He didn't get paid a nickel to say any of that, did he?

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17197254
He didn't get paid a nickel to say any of that, did he?

So he is lying? Is that the inference? Is it logical to assume he is deceitful, or that the 7D2 with its 65 AF points and dual digic 6 processors might actually be able to do what he says it did? Those are the only 2 options here, unless you also add the option that he is an idiot and doesn't know what he is talking about. I prefer to take the words of a very published photographer at their value, than to assume anything else, at this point.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17197012
No wonder so many are confused about the crop factor. I agreed with everything he said until he propagates how the 7D2 will turn their 70-200 f2.8 lens into a 320 f2.8 lens, and this is what he tells aspiring photographers that attend his seminars. I guess it's probably easier to just say that than to get into all the nitty gritty we do here.

Yes, I think it was just done for simplification. And it's quite common to do it that way. You don't want to start dissecting FOV, DOF, pixel denstiy etc every time you mention the crop factor.

Thorsten wrote in post #17197273
Yes, I think it was just done for simplification. And it's quite common to do it that way. You don't want to start dissecting FOV, DOF, pixel denstiy etc every time you mention the crop factor.

Well when they come to the boards for help, they will undoubtedly get corrected at that point.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17197276
Well when they come to the boards for help, they will undoubtedly get corrected at that point.

...after a very lengthy exchange.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17197265
So he is lying? Is that the inference? Is it logical to assume he is deceitful, or that the 7D2 with its 65 AF points and dual digic 6 processors might actually be able to do what he says it did? Those are the only 2 options here, unless you also add the option that he is an idiot and doesn't know what he is talking about. I prefer to take the words of a very published photographer at their value, than to assume anything else, at this point.

You over-read me. The other possibility is that the 7DII is everything Canon and Mr. Miller claims it is, and perhaps more. The fact remains that his endorsement of a sports-related camera will help it sell. Canon knows that. Mr. Miller knows that. I merely posit that they could collaborate and increase both their bottom lines.

I made no negative claims about the camera, the reviewer or Canon. If you read my comment as negative, that is on you, my good Sir.

He was pretty adamant about its functionality and performance, so I would have to believe it. That makes 2 "paid" professional well-known sport photographers that have stated the same thing though.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17197336
He was pretty adamant about its functionality and performance, so I would have to believe it. That makes 2 "paid" professional well-known sport photographers that have stated the same thing though.

That's good to know. As I mentioned in other threads, my grandchildren are moving into Jr. & Sr. High-School sports. A 7DII may well be in my future.

I don't begrudge Mr. Miller for his opinion, or for (if he did) making money from it. Lots of celebrities endorse products... and get paid for it. At least we know Mr. Miller actually uses Canon products.

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17197254
He didn't get paid a nickel to say any of that, did he?

Only a six figure sum. Does that count ?

TeamSpeed wrote in post #17197276
Well when they come to the boards for help, they will undoubtedly get corrected at that point.

And one day they may go on to correct someone themselves. It's a beautiful thing. I get misty just thinking about it.

Rather like Maslow's Hierarchy of needs only about the fiddly bits of digital photography that true artists generally don't understand or need to understand.