7D2 noise question

Have had a 7D for several years now and love the camera. Since my copy is having problems and probably will have to be sent to Canon for repair, I am considering upgrading to a 7D2. Was wondering if the noise factor is better on the 7D2, as this is my one complaint about the 7D.

Any info available on this?

as I just started a topic on 7D as well, hehe...

are you talking about the ISO and camera's capability in low light conditions? 7D2 has better capabilities for sure. Let's be honest here - 7D is **** in high ISO. If you tend to need more than... emmm... 800... your wish for an upgrade is just logical. It all depends really. What do you do?

osh_sekta wrote in post #17218937
as I just started a topic on 7D as well, hehe...

are you talking about the ISO and camera's capability in low light conditions? 7D2 has better capabilities for sure. Let's be honest here - 7D is **** in high ISO. If you tend to need more than... emmm... 800... your wish for an upgrade is just logical. It all depends really. What do you do?

Birds mostly. Have a 6D for full frame (landscape ) shots.

I don't think we've seen enough samples at high ISOs, from competent shooters, to know what the real world, usable results from higher ISOs are going to be from that camera.

I'd be happy if they can eke out enough of an improvement to shoot 1600-3200 without thinking about it; although, I can still happily use those for *most* situations with the current model.

You need a fast friend for your 6D, that's for sure.
I do not shoot with it, but I have worked with 6D - I cannot imagine this apparatus to work on wildlife [and I am not even talking about the beneficiary crop factor here]. Do you need an upgrade? I guess you will enjoy m2. But I have no idea, how dealers work at your end. If the price is reasonable, you should go for it.

There are actually a couple other threads where there are quite a few high ISO shots, comparison shots between 7D2 and various other cameras, including the 7D. Teamspeed alone has made a few using RAW files.

osh_sekta wrote in post #17218937
as I just started a topic on 7D as well, hehe...

are you talking about the ISO and camera's capability in low light conditions? 7D2 has better capabilities for sure. Let's be honest here - 7D is **** in high ISO. If you tend to need more than... emmm... 800... your wish for an upgrade is just logical. It all depends really. What do you do?

1. If you cannot shoot higher than iso 800 on the 7d, you are most likely doing something wrong.

2. As the 7d2 is maybe 2/3 stop better than the 7d, then you won't be able to go above 1600 on the successor.

That is being honest.

You cannot shoot past ISO800 without additional lights to get good results. Of course, the setting and the actual need for this and that can change this, but, in my opinion, past this line iso do start to play pretty significant role and too often it limits you. i surely do not want to compare it to anything, becouse it's pretty pointless - just get a different cam - just stating, that overall at this point is reached some sort of limit.

Expose properly and even a bit to the right and you can get at least 2 more stops. Show me a raw where you tried a higher iso, and I believe I can point to what the issue was, camera, settings, or otherwise.

Check out this guy's write-up. Yes, he is a Canon ambassador, but I like his honesty and how straightforward he is. He comments on ISO, noise, and bird shots.
http://www.naturephoto​graphyblog.com

osh_sekta wrote in post #17218937
as I just started a topic on 7D as well, hehe...

are you talking about the ISO and camera's capability in low light conditions? 7D2 has better capabilities for sure. Let's be honest here - 7D is **** in high ISO. If you tend to need more than... emmm... 800... your wish for an upgrade is just logical. It all depends really. What do you do?

If you don't like the 7D at 800, you won't like any other camera at 1600. The 7D is quite capable of good results at 6400, and excellent at 3200. My 60D has the same sensor and I've got framed 8x10s hanging that were shot at 6400. If you don't like what you get out of a 7D at 800, it is nothing the camera is doing wrong. Look at some of the high-ISO threads.

The 7D2 will be an insignificant upgrade with regard to noise. It is still an apsc sensor.

GeoKras1989 wrote in post #17219114
If you don't like the 7D at 800, you won't like any other camera at 1600. The 7D is quite capable of good results at 6400,

If you can post one good 6400 example in the 7d thread i believe you.

Weja wrote in post #17219161
If you can post one good 6400 example in the 7d thread i believe you.

Oh, please! Don't take my word for anything. I am just an amateur trying to get the most out of my camera. There are hundreds of other folks doing the same. See this thread:

https://photography-on-the.net …?t=1308983&high​light=3200

I am sure if you spend any amount of time looking, you could find thousands of examples of high-ISO photographs that look good.

Added:
Here is a snap (first shot) I just made in my kitchen. ISO 102,400. Loss of detail, sure. Obliterated by noise? Hardly. As the 7D is known to be less than two-stops below the 6D in ISO performance, this is about what the 7D can do at 25600, if it could go that high. The 7D at 12,800 would be noticeably better than this. Anyone who claims you can't use a 7D above 800 is completely delirious.

Added, later:
I figured you wouldn't believe a photo from a 6D is relevant to what a 7D/7D2 could do. This (second shot) is from a 60D (same sensor as 7D) at 12,800.

I honestly dont know if this is a good example or not of iso 6400 on a 70D (which most people seem to think is a similar sensor to the 7D2) and I am sure that people that are good in PP could get more out of it. But I was quite happy how it turned out.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/oa2p​oe

Philihase wrote in post #17219189
I honestly dont know if this is a good example or not of iso 6400 on a 70D (which most people seem to think is a similar sensor to the 7D2) and I am sure that people that are good in PP could get more out of it. But I was quite happy how it turned out.

I see lots of feather detail and no distracting noise. I'd be happy with that.