Studio Portrait Comparison - 7D vs 7D mark II - low ISO

Hi!

Would anyone be kind enough to do a comparison between 7D and 7D mark II at base ISO in a studio environment - portrait and full body?
I have the original 7D and cannot decide if it will be a good move to "upgrade to level II" - I know that the conventional wisdom will tell me that, for this job, a full frame will be better but I photograph mostly moving children and speed of focus and depth of field are important to me (and I cannot justify yet a 5D mark III and above

Many thanks!

Dont waste your money on a crop upgrade if only using base iso.

jaomul wrote in post #17246940
Dont waste your money on a crop upgrade if only using base iso.

This may well be good advice if looking at a camera for studio work. If I were looking at that, I probably wouldn't be looking at an APS-C sensor camera. My upgrade would be to full-frame or (if I had the budget) an even larger sensor. The latest Pentax digital medium-format offering for example (645Z? something like that).

Outside the studio, in circumstances where AF performance matters more, it might be (and in my case is) a different thing.

...Mike

I worded it badly. I meant dont waste money on another crop if upgrading as there would be no perceivable improvement. The 7d can do anything in a studio that a 7d2 (am I allowed say this when I have never seen a 7d2 file??) will be able to do. A fullframe or medium format upgrade may of course be worthwhile

I doubt you gain anything for studio use between the two.. thats not to say the 7D2 wont be a fine camera but ar base iso in controlled light you gain little.

My problem is having a camera with very good focus ability ... I cannot have misfocused images because when you shoot small children you cannot pose them (most of the time ) - if the moment is gone ... is gone ... and the expressions change very fast ...
My full frame alternative will be a 6D ... but I am afraid the focusing system is not that robust + the focus points are "not optimally placed" ... and like I said 5D is a bit too expensive ...

Buy a used 1DS MIII for moving children and superior base iso. You should be able to pick one up in the 7D MII price range.

xseven wrote in post #17246897
in a studio environment - portrait and full body...

this says FF

xseven wrote in post #17246995
My problem is having a camera with very good focus ability ... I cannot have misfocused images because when you shoot small children you cannot pose them (most of the time ) - if the moment is gone ... is gone ... and the expressions change very fast ...
My full frame alternative will be a 6D ... but I am afraid the focusing system is not that robust + the focus points are "not optimally placed" ... and like I said 5D is a bit too expensive ...

In a studio setup if you can't focus with a 6D your technique needs work.

gonzogolf wrote in post #17247353
In a studio setup if you can't focus with a 6D your technique needs work.

Have you ever tried to photograph a child running around, keep the focus point on his eyes and have a keeper rate greater than 90%?
I can do that with my 7D ... can you do it with a 6D?

try Al servo mode for the moving subjects

http://digital-photography-school.com …i-servo-when-to-use-each/

bk2life wrote in post #17247076
this says FF

But his budget clearly states crop. From the images that have even used as comparisons on here, don't waste your money on a 7d2. At base ISO in controlled lighting the difference will be negligible to zilch

xseven wrote in post #17247887
Have you ever tried to photograph a child running around, keep the focus point on his eyes and have a keeper rate greater than 90%?
I can do that with my 7D ... can you do it with a 6D?

Your kid is running in a studio?

gonzogolf wrote in post #17247353
In a studio setup if you can't focus with a 6D your technique needs work.

In the studio with the small apertures of f/8 and smaller I tend to never miss a shot "focus and recomposing" using the 5dmk2. The outer focus points are much too inaccurate both 5dmk2 and 6d.

For studio type environment I see not point going 7dmk2 if you own a 7d. If full frame is a consideration the 6d will require "focus/recompose" technique.

I guess a 1dsmk3 is a good suggestion or 5dmk3 but more $$$