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Nov 04, 2014 15:09 |  #1

Has anyone ever seen or heard of this guy before in regards to this product? (I know he's a professional photographer)

The reason I ask is, I have always seen (watching MANY videos) where the most caution EVER should be used when cleaning the sensors, and after watching his, it made me cringe! Maybe he's letting us know that it's not as scary as they make it out to be. I kind of doubt that he'd be selling this stuff for as long as he has and it not be a good product or have really bad reviews.
I did a Google Search on him and this sensor cleaner he has seems to be working, but I got curious as to what YOU thought, and IF YOU used it, or, thought he was just crazy. (Some people do think that, I'm sure after seeing him fog up the sensor the way he does) I also wondered if he was crazy, but I have to admit, I REALLY do like him, he has a really good personality, and he looks like Charles Durning (external link)in a way, and acts kind'a like Bob Ross (external link), if you know what I mean. He would be a great teacher, he has that ability to actually keep your attention, and he's just plain ol' interesting too, at least I think he is.

Trying to stay on topic is a thing I hope that will happen, what I am asking is, have you used his product, and/or, do you think he's crazy, or what?
I do not want this thread to be one that changes the subject and people start suggesting other ways of cleaning camera sensors. PLEASE? :)
In other words, all things Peter Gregg...

http://petergregg.com/​sensorsweep.html (external link)

(This is just one of his videos, this is the latest one on the subject)
https://www.youtube.co​m …=UUi8EdvCPj132R​_YirIzzQ6w (external link)


What do you think of the product?
Do you think he's off of his rocker?

I subscribed to his YouTube channel, that's what I thought of him... :)

Thanks for keeping this on topic!
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Nov 04, 2014 15:34 |  #2

Well, it doesn't seem rediculous. It is very basically a mini lens cloth on a cushion to protect the sensor ;). I am worried that the cloth on top will pick up a bit of dust and scratch the sensor, and im not sure about fogging the sensor as that would introduce moisture to the sensor... we have air blowers to prevent that.

It's something that i definately will try on my lenses though - some rear elements are hidden deep inside the lens and the sensorsweeps are shaped really nicely to deal with that, and they are packaged so that I can toss them in my bag and not have to worry about dust in my bag.


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Well, it doesn't seem rediculous. It is very basically a mini lens cloth on a cushion to protect the sensor ;). I am worried that the cloth on top will pick up a bit of dust and scratch the sensor, and im not sure about fogging the sensor as that would introduce moisture to the sensor... we have air blowers to prevent that.

It's something that i definately will try on my lenses though - some rear elements are hidden deep inside the lens and the sensorsweeps are shaped really nicely to deal with that, and they are packaged so that I can toss them in my bag and not have to worry about dust in my bag.

It seems like it could work, but after being told, or rather, shown on many, many videos about being so careful when you touch the sensor, it makes me cringe. So it may work, but I don't want to be the guinea pig. :) I have some really bad spots on my 1DmkIV that will not come off period, I have tried my Giottos Blower on it until I am blue in the face, and they are still there.
I was at some sand dunes on a windy day this Spring and since then I have had some major spots. I can actually see them when looking into the sensor area with my lighted magnifying glass and also when I have an image up, of course. :) I made sure (as I could) when changing the lens, (I actually did it in my truck) and it still happened. Really, I don't know how it happened, I just started seeing spots after I got back off of that trip, that's all I know.
Anyway, I know that for a fact I could send it in, or have it done locally, but I want to see what others think about Peter Greggs's product.

The fog method sounds weird, but I know that a lot here also use the fog method on their lenses with a clean t-shirt, (I do if I am out somewhere) so this may not be so crazy, I guess. I have never seen stuff stuck to a lens before, at least not like what I have on my sensor.
If I were going to clean my 5DII I would try his product, it's not that dirty though to need to try.

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Nov 05, 2014 08:08 as a reply to  @ recrisp's post |  #4

I've used something similar - basically a spatula wrapped with a Pec-Pad and used Eclipse alcohol, but I followed the "only-one-swipe-per-side" and had ok results.

I would have no problems trying this "sensorsweep" stick.


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Nov 05, 2014 09:02 |  #5

After watching his videos, I'm inclined to run away as fast as possible.
In any event, 5 bucks a pop for a garage-built mashup of cheap plastic bits is absurd.

Get a bag of these http://www.texwipe.com …an-polyester/default.aspx (external link) and a little pure methanol. You'll be able to clean off anything from dust to oily lint for ~25 cents (depending on which swab you chose) per cleaning.

The large swabs are nice for wiping a really dirty sensor, but the small ones work better if you have only a few spots. Get a strong light and reading glasses, and you'll be abler to see the fluffies on the surface. Dab them with a very slightly methanol wetted swab and you're good to go.




  
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Nov 05, 2014 09:14 |  #6

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I've used something similar - basically a spatula wrapped with a Pec-Pad and used Eclipse alcohol, but I followed the "only-one-swipe-per-side" and had ok results.

I would have no problems trying this "sensorsweep" stick.

I have seen those that you mention, but his method is a dry one, which really, makes some sense, not that I am a scientist. :) This is a very strange way, I admit, but again, this guy says that he uses it on his expensive cameras, and he really might. If he does, that is really something, I mean, he rubs that thing around like we've all been told not to. :)

Thanks for playing! :)

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Nov 05, 2014 09:14 |  #7

Touching the sensor is not all that traumatic. The surface should have a hard layer over teh window, making it roughly as tough as a typical lens. (The difference, of course, is that a tiny scratch on your lens will have zero effect on the image, while the same scratch <1mm from the detector will cause all manner of ghosting, shadowing, etc.)

Randy, your light sand issue will probably require some manner of direct contact. Using one of the small swabs listed above, you can gently wipe and roll the swab from the side and lift off each of the large grains with near-zero risk. Honestly, I'd be worried to use those big thumb-sized pads, since they will tend to sandwich and squeeze the nasties - and possibly rub them into the glass - rather than lift them away.

Even a q-tip, lightly wetted with a hint of distilled water, can work fairly well. Don't use any solvent, since it may dissolve the glue holding the cotton to the stick. Twirl the q-tip as you approach the dirt from one side, so that it snags and lifts the junk away from the glass as soon as possible. Needless to say, do not press in any way, just let the cotton glide over the surface. You should feel just a hint of contact pressure.




  
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Nov 05, 2014 09:17 |  #8

Geonerd wrote in post #17253555 (external link)
After watching his videos, I'm inclined to run away as fast as possible.
In any event, 5 bucks a pop for a garage-built mashup of cheap plastic bits is absurd.

Get a bag of these http://www.texwipe.com …an-polyester/default.aspx (external link) and a little pure methanol. You'll be able to clean off anything from dust to oily lint for ~25 cents (depending on which swab you chose) per cleaning.

The large swabs are nice for wiping a really dirty sensor, but the small ones work better if you have only a few spots. Get a strong light and reading glasses, and you'll be abler to see the fluffies on the surface. Dab them with a very slightly methanol wetted swab and you're good to go.

I definitely understand why you'd want to run, I felt that way too, but, if I had a camera that I would want to try this on, I'd like to see how it affects it, as a test. Just because it doesn't make sense, or looks crazy, doesn't mean that it is, we may have all been hoodwinked by the big companies that the sensors are so fragile that we 'must' do it a certain way, for monetary reasons, 'maybe'... Stranger things have been found out to happen. :)

Let's all stay on topic please though, please don't change this into a 'use this method/brand', that is all over the internet, it's easy to find.
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Geonerd wrote in post #17253579 (external link)
Touching the sensor is not all that traumatic. The surface should have a hard layer over teh window, making it roughly as tough as a typical lens. (The difference, of course, is that a tiny scratch on your lens will have zero effect on the image, while the same scratch <1mm from the detector will cause all manner of ghosting, shadowing, etc.)

Randy, your light sand issue will probably require some manner of direct contact. Using one of the small swabs listed above, you can gently wipe and roll the swab from the side and lift off each of the large grains with near-zero risk. Honestly, I'd be worried to use those big thumb-sized pads, since they will tend to sandwich and squeeze the nasties - and possibly rub them into the glass - rather than lift them away.

Even a q-tip, lightly wetted with a hint of distilled water, can work fairly well. Don't use any solvent, since it may dissolve the glue holding the cotton to the stick. Twirl the q-tip as you approach the dirt from one side, so that it snags and lifts the junk away from the glass as soon as possible. Needless to say, do not press in any way, just let the cotton glide over the surface. You should feel just a hint of contact pressure.

You are probably right about the way I would need to try and get rid of my 'sand', if that is what it is, but I don't want to try it. I will more than likely take it in and have a professional do it, it's that bad.

I really wanted to see what people thought of how he goes about all of this, this is not so much a thread about how to clean a sensor in the best way, if that makes sense. He's an odd guy, and that is an odd way to go about something that we've all been told is a giant no-no. :)

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