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Thoughts on Magmod light modifer from kickstarter

 
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Nov 05, 2014 14:17 |  #1

It seems like a pretty hassle free way to put on modifiers as they are held on my magnets.
Really digging the Gel system but they now have the Magsphere and Magbounce.
What do you guys think ? Next best gimmick? or do you think because of the material it's made of, it might be good defused light?

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Nov 05, 2014 16:12 |  #2

Next gimmick that gives diffused light.

It can be both.

These things have limited use, but if it's useful for your kind of shooting, go for it. I will probably never own any of them, but fully expect them to get rich on it.

Also, sweet mola demi (with sock) placement as an attempt to legitimize their efforts.


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Nov 05, 2014 17:05 |  #3

Next big gimmick that will tell you somehow they found a way to get around the physics of light.


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Nov 05, 2014 17:13 |  #4

Cree already has been producing the silicone mushroom for years. Funny to see people steal someone else idea.


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Nov 05, 2014 17:15 |  #5

Its a different version of the fong scam.




  
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Nov 05, 2014 17:36 |  #6

I wonder if the magsphere can hold my soup in it lol


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Nov 05, 2014 20:58 |  #7

they actually work quite well, easy to switch out, add grid, remove, etc. Much easier than any velcro or other some such attachments. I like them. Also getting their diffusers, never bought a Fong but have several others and like playing with these things. Fits into the system, they're soft and don't take up much space, works for me. And I don't have to switch out what's mounted on my flash.


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Nov 05, 2014 21:13 |  #8

Im sure they are easy to mount, but that doesnt make them an effective light modifier.




  
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Nov 05, 2014 23:34 |  #9

work effectively for me, doesn't mean they need to do so for you. Not sure what you're saying though. They don't work for me because they don't work for you??? Odd~


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Nov 05, 2014 23:39 |  #10

phantelope wrote in post #17255135 (external link)
work effectively for me, doesn't mean they need to do so for you. Not sure what you're saying though. They don't work for me because they don't work for you??? Odd~

That type of device doesnt do snything to increase the size of the light source. In a room with white walls and a white ceiling you get some bounce, but if you have that you dont need a diffuser. It does nothing to soften direct flash. Do some tests and prove it to yourself.




  
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Nov 05, 2014 23:40 |  #11

gonzogolf wrote in post #17254930 (external link)
Im sure they are easy to mount, but that doesnt make them an effective light modifier.

I'd say their Grid and gels are effective modifiers. They have been getting great reviews.

Theses new things though...Meh. The "Mag sphere" is just more tupperwear to me. The "mag bounce" could be an ok replacement for the rogue flash bender (which is one small light modifier that I do love) but I wonder how well it really works, and how much light is lost, since it seems translucent.




  
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Nov 05, 2014 23:53 |  #12

gremlin75 wrote in post #17255142 (external link)
I'd say their Grid and gels are effective modifiers. They have been getting great reviews.

Theses new things though...Meh. The "Mag sphere" is just more tupperwear to me. The "mag bounce" could be an ok replacement for the rogue flash bender (which is one small light modifier that I do love) but I wonder how well it really works, and how much light is lost, since it seems translucent.

I was only speaking to the new products, the tupperware stuff. That scoop thing is too small and curved edged to compare with a flashbender




  
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Nov 06, 2014 08:46 |  #13

phantelope wrote in post #17255135 (external link)
work effectively for me, doesn't mean they need to do so for you. Not sure what you're saying though. They don't work for me because they don't work for you??? Odd~

Don't take it personally. Dome style diffusers do not receive a warm welcome at this site. It is nothing against the product itself but it's real effectiveness based on the simple rules of physics and how they are often advertised. You can't spray light to sides, etc and get it to curve back in towards you subject.

The omni bounce does not have flashy (no pun intended) advertising but I'll use it as an example.

Omni from the dictionary - combining form meaning “all,” used in the formation of compound words. This tells me in every direction and bounce is self explanatory. To me the purpose of this device is to bounce off everything around you. This was what it was designed to do. As a stand alone it is still a small, thus hard light source. So in the correct conditions it does as advertised.

I have had conversations with people about using it outdoors and how it lights effectively. It can't as a stand alone. 80% or more of the light is sprayed all over the place. The surface area that actually directs light towards the subject is about the same as the size of your cameras flash head so there is little difference between that and shooting direct. You are better off just shooting direct and save battery power.

The Magmod we are taking about is also a bounce dependant device. Like Gonzo said it will be effective in a room with white ceilings and walls. The argument is that if there are walls and ceilings then we can rotate our flash heads, bounce and be just as effective. As a stand alone, very close up will help because it is bigger than your flash head, but not by much if you factor in how much surface area is lighting your subject and how much is spraying light all over the place. It's effectiveness diminishes very quickly as you move away from your subject. I once calculated that the effective surface area of the fong dome as a stand alone is about 3 to 4 times larger than your flash head. Not that much larger.

So if the product works for you great. I never care what anyone uses but the members here are not being critical of you. They will just explain what is supposed to do, and what it can't do. They do get a little put off by the advertising.


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Nov 06, 2014 11:19 |  #14

digital paradise wrote in post #17255576 (external link)
So if the product works for you great. I never care what anyone uses but the members here are not being critical of you. They will just explain what is supposed to do, and what it can't do. They do get a little put off by the advertising.

I'm hoping that once the forum participants here get the camera gear manufacturers' claims under control that they then tackle some bigger problematic concepts that would appear to fly in the face of reality too:

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May 30, 2015 21:26 |  #15

It's lighter then the GF and puts out 2 stops more light so longer battery life.




  
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